Gays are NOT second class citizens. --- but they are a protected group thus, unequal
On Feb 3, 6:50 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > No. Seperate is unequal. > > Gays are NOT second class citizens. > > On 2/3/11, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Tommy, > > > Aside from the "well if they're the same..." argument -- if a civil > > union had exactly the same legal rights as a marriage, would that be > > acceptable to you? > > > On Feb 2, 8:43 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Newt Bedhopper Frogrich is a Homophobic Adulterous Hypocrite! > > >> Let’s Tear Apart Newt Gingrich’s Gay Marriage Logic! > > >> 2/2/11 at 12:50 PM Comment 26Comment 26Comments > >> In some ways, the debate hosted by George Washington University last > >> night between Howard Dean and Newt Gingrich was the first of the > >> presidential campaign season, at least for Gingrich. Based on his > >> performance, he'll be a formidable debate opponent for his fellow > >> Republicans and, who knows, maybe President Obama. The former House > >> Speaker demonstrated his ability to speak easily and at length on what > >> will be the most prominent issues of the campaign, like the economy, > >> national security, health-care reform, and immigration. He also > >> briefly shared his thoughts on gay marriage: > > >> So Gingrich's argument is that: > >> 1. He believes that marriage should be only between a man and a woman. > >> 2. The GWU student believes that marriage should be between anyone who > >> wants to get married. > >> 3. Both have an equal right to their own beliefs. > >> 4. Gay people can't get married. > > >> Something weird happened there between 3 and 4. The logical solution > >> would be that gay people can get gay married, Newt Gingrich can get > >> straight married, and nobody has to force their own personal beliefs > >> on the other. But Gingrich doesn't come to that conclusion for some > >> reason. Admittedly, neither does about half the country, and > >> Gingrich's position is widely accepted, especially among Republican > >> primary voters, the first group he has to impress. > > >> But here's a prediction: Gay marriage may not be a hugely important > >> issue in the election, but because President Obama seems destined to > >> announce his embrace of gay marriage in the not-too-distant future, it > >> will be an issue. And you just know how Obama is going explain his > >> change of heart, whenever he's asked about it, in debates and town > >> halls and TV interviews — with stirring language about upholding core > >> American ideals like equality, individual freedom, and loving thy > >> neighbor. Maybe our liberal New Yorker mindset is tainting our > >> thinking, but it's not hard to imagine Obama's conversion pushing a > >> populace already rapidly warming to the idea of gay marriage further > >> in that direction, to the point that a clear, reliable majority of the > >> country finds the arguments of Gingrich (and the rest of the > >> Republican field) as hollow and unconvincing as they truly are. At the > >> very least, Gingrich may want to start thinking about how to deliver > >> these unconvincing arguments without a sneer. > > >> More:http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/02/lets_tear_apart_newt_gingrichs.html > >> -- > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> Have a great day, > >> Tommy > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
