Perhaps you might cite an example when it actually occurs ... declaring what you imagine to have occurred.
Still wondering what it is you imagine 'traditional American values' to entail.
Regard$,
--MJ
"Typical American stops for a traffic light and notices that the car in front of him has a bumper sticker that reads, "Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace." He nods languidly and thinks, "Yeah, everybody knows that. How else can we have peace?"" -- Robert Higgs
At 12:22 PM 6/7/2013, you wrote:
Your posts speak for themselves......
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:25 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
- ROTFLMAO!
- Another baseless, context-lacking claim.
- What are 'traditional American values'?
- Regard$,
- --MJ
- "Men in authority will always think that criticism of their policies is dangerous. They will always equate their policies with patriotism, and find criticism subversive" -- Henry Steele Commager.
- At 10:19 AM 6/7/2013, you wrote:
- You apparently do too, as long as they are attacks on traditional American values, conservatives and the Republican Party in general.
- On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
- Yeah ... you *would* love ad hominem phrases.
- Regard$,
- --MJ
- "The cult of Lincoln was founded on 15 April 1865 when a single bullet altered what otherwise would have been his rightful place alongside history's bloodiest rulers. Up until the time of his death, Lincoln was denounced by nearly everyone in Washington, including the men of his own party and the members of his own Cabinet, as "a more unlimited despot than the world knows this side of China,"(3) "a despicable tyrant,"(4) "that original gorilla,"(5) and "a low, cunning clown."(6) He was ridiculed for his "halting imbecility,"(7) and his Administration was criticized for its "feebleness, faithlessness and incapacity,"(8) for being "an insult to the flag, and a traitor to their God,"(9) and for "dragging the Union to ruin."(10) Of "Ol' Honest Abe" it was asserted that "a hound might hunt Mr. Lincoln, and never find him by an honest scent."(11) Wendell Phillips, a leading Republican Abolitionist, viewed Lincoln as "a mere convenience [who was] waiting, like any other broomstick, to be used."(12)" -- Greg Durand
- 3. Wendell Phillips, quoted by Woodward, Meet General Grant, page 276.
- 4. New York World, 26 October 1864.
- 5. Edwin Stanton, quoted by Edmonds, Facts and Falsehoods, page 18.
- 6. Stanton, quoted by Charles L.C. Minor, The Real Lincoln (Wiggins, Mississippi: Crown Rights Book Company, [1928] 1997), page 42.
- 7. Editorial: "A Yearning for the Democratic Party," New York World, 15 April 1864.
- 8. Ibid., 2 June 1864.
- 9. Alfred R. Wooten, Attorney-General of Delaware, quoted by New York Tribune, 4 June 1863.
- 10. Wendell Phillips, quoted by ibid.
- 11. Wooten, quoted by ibid.
- 12. Phillips, speech delivered on 1 August 1862; quoted by Edmonds, Facts and Falsehoods, page 16.
- At 10:11 AM 6/7/2013, you wrote:
- I've never heard the term, "the fever swamp of LewRockwell.com"; but I love it!
- On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
- Desperate Neocons Dig Up the Rotted, Smelly Corpse of Lincoln . . .
- Posted by Thomas DiLorenzo on June 7, 2013 07:54 AM
- . . . yet again in an amateurish rehash of nineteenth-century Republican Party propaganda (a.k.a., "Straussianism") in the form of a National Neocon Review cover story titled "Defending Lincoln." The way to become politically relevant and win over America's youth, says Rich Lowry (who apparently will always look like he just started shaving last week) is to continue to libel and smear Ron Paul and "the fever swamp of LewRockwell.com" while composing boring, poorly-written, long-winded apologies for the abolition of civil liberties, crackdowns on free speech, the imprisoning of dissenters, pervasive spying by the state, the deportation of political opponents, massive taxation and debt to pay for it all, centralized, monopolistic government, crony capitalism, and above all, never-ending aggressive wars all around the world in the name of "making all men free."
- This of course is all in keeping with the ideology of National Neocon Review's founder, "former" CIA employee William F. Buckley, Jr., who wrote in the January 25, 1952 issue of The Commonweal magazine that what America needed was "the extensive and productive tax laws that are needed to support a vigorous anti-communist foreign policy . . . . we have got to accept Big Government for the duration -- for neither an offensive nor a defensive war can be waged . . . except through the instrumentality of a totalitarian bureaucracy within our shores . . . . [including] large armies and air forces, atomic energy, central intelligence, war production boards, and the attendant centralization of power in Washington." (See Murray Rothbard, "Buckley Revealed" at: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard6.html).
- This is what it meant to be a "National Review Conservative" (a.k.a., fascist) in Buckley's time as now. The legitimacy of the Welfare/Warfare/Police state does not rest upon the Constitution but upon the myths and legends of Abraham Lincoln perpetrated by Republican Party hacks and propagandists like Rich Lowry.
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