HI.
 
I know that there is a patch that was made to work around Pam. But I had 
noticed 
compiling Polkit-1 git  20385ae before applying it. That when you use 
--with-authfw=shadow 
it says  PAM support:  no  , yet as far as I have know since it tries in the 
helper 
section to build its looking for Pam this would be a bug needing fixed. Plus 
I'd prefer not 
to have Consolekit at all since things don't work completely and it really 
still is geared 
to need pam. I'd love this to be with the full authentication of choice 
"shadow" Old school 
or not as people claim so is the one that you people like. But they are all 
maintained. 
There are platforms that don't want this and users but I'm seeing Linux now has 
lost the 
respect of these platforms and users now. It truly disappointing.. KDE4 went 
for it because 
they know Hal is getting dropped now we have some things we used to have broken 
and to bad 
for us is always the response. 
Get modern too, well shadow is still as modern as Pam(Consolekit/Policy). All I 
hear is 
that is just superior attitude.  They are all old and maintained and equal. I 
had respect 
for people that wanted to use them But now its a bit hard to keep that since we 
don't any 
more. But as I've noticed the people that use Pam and its parts are always 
thinking it 
superior "there is really only one kind of authentication and that is PAM" 
tonight in kde  
and "which *everything* uses". I had just said I thought people that used Pam 
were clueless
and out of surprise I found that to be true. Fact is they thought that every 
one and every
platform did really use Pam and there is no other authentication. But then 
since shadow is 
being FORCED out then maybe hes right? Anyway I rally am still hoping this gets 
fixed soon 
I want to get rid of Console kit and unfortunately will still be stuck with 
Polkit-1 .
I just hope it will be fixed to turn it over to shadow like it should. Lets 
keep the 2 
choices please .

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