On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Steve Orvell <[email protected]> wrote:

> we ended up was that template documents did have a registry but didn't
>> share the registry with the main document.
>
>
> Yes, this is what we want.
>

OK, I have reopened spec bug
23839<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23839>
.

I think the implementation is the way you want it so nothing to change
there. This needs a spec change.


> This is because "In all other cases, new documents must not have a
>> registry." XHR's response document is one of these other cases.
>
>
> This makes sense. Thanks for the explanation Dominic. I think we've agreed
> that the longer term plan is to have an api for sharing/modifying element
> registries. Associating a registry with an XHR'd document will be an
> interesting use case for us to consider when we design that api.
>
> In the meantime, to get custom elements out of XHR'd documents, the user
> must re-create the dom in the XHR document in a document with the desired
> registry.
>
> HTMLImports are a better fit for this kind of use case since imported
> documents do share the main document's registry.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Dominic Cooney <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> This is defined here: <
>> http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/custom/#creating-and-passing-registries
>> >.
>>
>> In general, something like "X not a foo" in red is hard to understand
>> because it's a double-negative. Something like "X should be a foo" in red
>> might be easier to understand.
>>
>> More inline.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Steve Orvell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Test 2 is expected. Templates are intended to be inert so it makes sense
>>> that elements inside them do not upgrade. Upgrading these elements would be
>>> a performance penalty.
>>>
>>> Test 4: I'm not sure this behavior is well defined, but I'm sure Dominic
>>> knows more. If it's not defined, perhaps we can post a spec bug. It does
>>> indeed seem convenient to me that these documents use the main document's
>>> element registry.
>>>
>>
>> This changed in Chrome 34, FWIW. More below.
>>
>>
>>> Eventually, HTMLImports will be ideal for this. Right now polymer
>>> prevents upgrade inside imports because test 2 is not yet fully supported
>>> under native custom elements.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Eric Bidelman <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> TL;DR
>>>> To ajaxify pp.org, I've been trying to test custom elements in an
>>>> XHR'd document (e.g. xhr.responseType='document'). The elements don't pick
>>>> up their element definitions from the main document. Why?
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> I threw together http://jsbin.com/gaquyeha/1/edit to test when/where
>>>> custom elements are registered *and* upgraded. Some of the results are
>>>> surprising and I'm hoping someone can shed light. I also might be in crazy
>>>> town.
>>>>
>>>> View of the console from http://jsbin.com/gaquyeha/1/edit.
>>>>
>>>> TEST 1:<polymer-ajax> declared in main document runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  ✔ not an HTMLUnknownElement runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  ✔ go() is defined runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  TEST 2: <polymer-ajax> in a <template> in the main document
>>>> runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  ✔ not an HTMLUnknownElement runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  ✘ go() is defined runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  TEST 3: <polymer-ajax> in a newly created document
>>>> runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  ✔ not an HTMLUnknownElement runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  ✔ go() is defined runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  TEST 4: <polymer-ajax> in an XHR'd document runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  ✘ not an HTMLUnknownElement runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>  ✘ go() is defined runner-3.11.7.min.js:1
>>>>
>>>> TEST 1: Expected.
>>>>
>>>> TEST 2:  according to 
>>>> Dominic<http://www.polymer-project.org/discuss.html?place=msg%2Fpolymer-dev%2Fqkl8l3c_SUU%2FGBPs9uOEIk4J>,
>>>> custom elements in <template> are inert and don't pick up the definitions
>>>> in the main document. These results indicate polymer-ajax gets registered
>>>> but isn't upgraded. *Why*?
>>>>
>>>
>> This is what "we" discussed; IIRC Raf argued that template documents
>> should have a registry, and Scott argued that elements in a template
>> shouldn't upgrade, and where we ended up was that template documents did
>> have a registry but didn't share the registry with the main document. Here's
>> the spec bug. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23839> Now
>> that I look in the spec, I think this 
>> change<https://github.com/w3c/webcomponents/commit/1d4c8e006a7b07c1f5ad36ed029505b37d41423f>went
>>  further and said template documents shouldn't have a registry *at
>> all*. We should fix the spec or the implementation. Any objection to
>> making the implementation match the spec?
>>
>>
>>> TEST 3: Expected.
>>>>
>>>> TEST 4: an XHR'd document (e.g. xhr.responseType='document') doesn't
>>>> pick up the definitions and the elements are not upgraded. *Why*?
>>>>
>>>
>> This is because "In all other cases, new documents must not have a
>> registry." XHR's response document is one of these other cases. FWIW this
>> was fixed 
>> recently<https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=339431>
>> .
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>> Eric
>>>>
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