Hi Addy,

My plan is for the core team is focus this week on tightening up our
component set and fleshing out the docs and on-ramp materials. You're just
a bit ahead of us. I hope to have clearer answers in a few days.

I'm leaning towards modifying our standard `index.html` to simply suggest
you install `polymer-home-page` instead of redirecting you to an external
site. WDYT?

Scott


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Addy Osmani <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Scott,
>
> Just picking up on this thread once again :) We are currently evaluating
> how to prescribe best
> practices around component documentation as part of WebComponents.org and
> a Polymer
> boilerplate project.
>
> The current setup you have based on <polymer-doc-viewer> and
> <polymer-home-page> so far
> work quite well, however I noticed that the source appears to rely on a
> self-hosted endpoint:
>
> http://turbogadgetry.com/bowertopia/components/
>
> If we were to model a way to auto-render docs using your setup today,
> would calling the above
> endpoint be feasible or would you prefer for us to (1) wait until a more
> concrete docs approach has
> been fleshed out or (2) a way to host this elsewhere (AppEngine?) so
> others can use it without
> causing issues.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Addy Osmani <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the walkthrough, Scott! I understand that much of this is
>> proof-of-concept, but it's still highly useful. I'll take a look through
>> your samples.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:19:02 UTC, Scott Miles wrote:
>>
>>> For documentation, we have a system today that leverages YuiDoc tooling
>>> and a context-free documentation syntax. The output we consume is a JSON
>>> database, which can be rendered statically or on demand.
>>>
>>> An example of some rendered documentation can be seen here:
>>> http://polymer.github.io/three-js/components/three-js/
>>>
>>> The documentation renderer used is a component (polymer-doc-viewer) .
>>> The default landing page (which includes the docs) is generated by another
>>> component (polymer-home-page).
>>>
>>> Yes, the actual database is for `webaudio-knob` while the page is
>>> supposed to be about `three-js`, that's just me being sloppy. I wasn't
>>> planning on sharing these materials exactly today, but since it came up ...
>>> =P
>>>
>>> Now, this example is a bit half-baked for a couple of reasons: (1) we
>>> are evaluating other ways of generating docs, and (2) this is just a piece
>>> of the larger meta-environment needed to support a rich component ecosystem.
>>>
>>> Our current thinking around this meta-system goes something like this
>>> (cribbed from some other notes I have):
>>> Goals
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Decentralized (flexibility, decoupling, allow third-party innovation)
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Rich materials
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Low barrier to entry
>>>    -
>>>
>>>       Free (support free server options)
>>>       -
>>>
>>>       Easy to set up
>>>
>>> Leverage
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Provide (optional) out-of-the-box solutions for docs, examples,
>>>    sandboxing (moar components!)
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Use free GitHub services
>>>
>>> Strawman: Requirements
>>>
>>> To participate in the ecosystem a component should have
>>>
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    github repository
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    landing (aka home or index or information) page
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    demo page
>>>
>>> Component Identity
>>>
>>> A component can be identified as a URL that points to a metadata file.
>>> The metadata (or the URL itself) identifies the github repository and the
>>> dispensation of the landing and demo pages.
>>> No Cost Setup
>>>
>>> Developer can set up live pages using GitHub servers by cloning the
>>> component repository into a gh-pages branch (and including
>>> dependencies; iow, clone working copy, bower install, push to 
>>> gh-pagesbranch). This set up requires no customization and can be automated.
>>>
>>> Example: three-js component installed to gh-pages:
>>>
>>>
>>> landing page:
>>>
>>> http://polymer.github.io/three-js/components/three-js/
>>>
>>>
>>>  demo page:
>>>
>>> http://polymer.github.io/three-js/components/three-js/demo.html
>>>
>>> (Links and content are variously messed up, these are just
>>> proof-of-concept mocks.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Addy Osmani <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Picking up on this thread from last year:
>>>>
>>>> For a developer looking to document the elements they're authoring
>>>> today, do we have an answer we can give them? (I've read through Eric's
>>>> self-documenting proposal and agree, it's a beautiful vision).
>>>>
>>>> After playing around with the prototype, however it looks like we would
>>>> need to either agree on an initial base template / format for the
>>>> documentation element or punt to existing tools like JSDoc (which Eric has
>>>> already mentioned has it's own issues as we're dealing with a multi-headed
>>>> beast).
>>>>
>>>> I'm primarily interested in this for Polymer tooling/boilerplate
>>>> projects where recommending documentation practices from the get-go would
>>>> be super-useful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 8 April 2013 20:02:19 UTC+1, Eric Bidelman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Inspired by Mike K's great idea of self documenting custom elements,
>>>>> I've written a proposal to formalize the effort.
>>>>> We have a great opportunity here to come up with best practices early
>>>>> on.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Proposal: Self Documenting Custom Elements <http://goo.gl/X5DxO>*
>>>>>     - prototype <http://goo.gl/0pdSW> - a custom element that uses
>>>>> this method.
>>>>>      - it's <wc-documentation> <http://goo.gl/qzW7P> (best viewed in
>>>>> Chrome Canary to get ::distributed()).
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>
>>>>> Things I like about this approach:
>>>>>
>>>>> - The delivery mechanism is <link rel="import">.
>>>>> - Becomes the "view source of custom elements". Click an import's link
>>>>> -> get its docs.
>>>>> - The docs themselves are custom elements
>>>>> - works reasonably well in other modern browsers, especially if the
>>>>> toolkit polyfills are included.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for everyone's feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Bidelman
>>>>>
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