+1

I think loosing support for templates is a big blow to productivity,
although I certainly see the benefits of LitHTML. It's clear that people
like templates -- that's why Angular, React, and even Stencil offer them.

I'd be happy with a preprocessor, though...

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On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Joern Turner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> biggest noticable change in 3.x from 2.x is the complete loss of the
> declarative approach for templates.
>
> I critizised that before and got the encouraging answer that there are
> many people behind me in seeing the declarative approach as important.
>
> Looking at the latest blog article an the example template function the
> horror returned ;)
>
> I keep on nagging on this - IMHO shifting from HTML to JavaScript for the
> representation of a Web Component is to state it mildly 'very unlucky'.
>
> I know the Polymer team is following the current state of the discussion
> in the (upcoming) standard but nevertheless the point remains: if
> Polymer and Web Components take this direction IMO Web Components loose a
> major selling point and are hardly better than many of the JS frameworks
> we've seen
> over the years. While the representation change seems to be hard to resist
> (sometimes i hate democracy ;) there should be at least some way to keep
> the template declarative.
>
> I know the work of standard comitees so i do not blame the Polymer team at
> all. However the decision - obviously triggered by the move to js module
> loaders - is a technological decision and
> not a design or architecture-driven one. That's a poor approach especially
> considering the intended long-term relevance of a W3C standard.
>
> So, first i'd like to know how the current debate is going and apologize
> if this is not the right place to ask.
>
> Second - is there any more appropriate list at the W3C where i can throw
> in my 2 cents? The W3C page does not reveal much at first sight and i'm
> missing up-to-date minutes as well as latest drafts.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Joern
>
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