----- On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:17 PM, Matt Wagner [email protected] wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Daniel 'hackbyte' Mitzlaff <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> What the?
>>
>> 2017-06-19 23:28 GMT+02:00 Dan Geist <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> > I support an ecosystem of (a really big number of) clients that are all
>> > intentionally rebooted every night at the same local time. There is
>> indeed
>> > a huge flood of time checks immediately following them since there is no
>> > battery-backed "CMOS-type" clock function on the device (thank you
>> > bean-counters). This is actually kind of nice since it's a really
>> accurate
>> > approximation of worst case scenario.
>> >
>> Are you really telling me, you guys are "just going the easy way", leaving
>> all these devices on their defaults instead of setting up your damn very
>> own ntpd acting at least as a stratum 3 proxy for your fscking LAN???
>>
> 
> I don't see anywhere in that email where it's suggested that they are
> querying
> public servers. If anything, calling the behavior "kind of nice" as a load
> test
> would lead me to believe that the traffic is indeed against their own
> servers.
This is correct, Matt. We run ~15 stratum1 clocks geo-distributed and and ~25 
stratum2 hosts on commodity hardware/vms (using aforementioned stratum1 hosts 
as a "pool"). Something on the order of 1.5 million clients using the S2 
collection via both a group of ipv4 and ipv6 anycasts (for sntp clients) and a 
pool of real IPs (for ntpd clients). Lots of utility issues cutting power to 
customer homes, various construction damages causing havoc, etc. means that we 
see a lot of variability, but having them all reboot at the exact same time is 
a really nice load test for the infrastructure.
> 
>> REALLY?
>>
>> Well, i suppose, people who just put a full quote in their answer seem to
>> don't know it better?
>>
> 
> This bit comes across as a personal attack.
Back in the day, anything more than 80x25 was rude. Times change :)

Dan

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