It would be great if we could move everything to github - even a plain copy
in its current state - as the git tools would make collaboration much
easier.

I originally made the https://github.com/poplog "organisation" account, but
I did it under such an old email address that I simply don't have access to
it any more (even github has killed that user).  But we/I can make another
(and maybe reclaim the old when we have some traction).

So, to begin with, we have to tackle one of the 2 hardest things in
computing: what name to give it? :-)  Perhaps openpoplog (though it always
was)? Any other suggestions?

When we have the repo we can discuss what should go in it...

Cheers,
Ian


On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 09:01, Aaron Sloman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> > It's my understanding that Waldek has a repo, with significant commits
> for
> > 64-bit and Arm support.  I'm unsure what has been tested and on what
> > platforms / hardware.
> > https://github.com/hebisch/poplog/commits/master
> >
> > with README.md:
> > "This is cleaned up version of Poplog sources, currently only core part."
>
> I take it you haven't been on this list during the last couple of months.
> There is now Poplog version 16 located here:
>
> https://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/poplog/V16/AREADME.html
>
> It starts:
>
>      STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION
>
>      Linux Poplog Version 16 is ready for testing:
>      After required linux libraries have been installed[*],
>      a single script fetches and installs Poplog V16[*]
>
> After running that script there's an optional extra command to relink with
> motif.
>
> It that file, and others there should answer your questions, at least as
> regards ubuntu, debian, arch, and Redhat based versions of linux (fedora,
> CentOS, Scientific linux).
>
> The getpoplog.sh script can be run with or without -nopie, as explained in
> the file. That default will probably be reversed as newer versions of linux
> seem to need the -nopie version (pie = position independent execution).
>
> Please report your experiences to the list. I am struggling a bit to keep
> up at present because other pressures. That may be true of other, more
> expert, participants also.
>
> Eventually I expect it all to go onto github, but there are still some
> questions about what should and should not be in it and a small 'startup'
> bug that so far only affects programs that are run as
>
>      pop11 command....
>
> where command makes use of itemread/readitem and its derivatives, which can
> always, for now be replaced by
>
>      pop11
>      : command ...
>
> The install instructions have been tested by several people on this list --
> I don't know how many. There are people working on reviving old packages,
> e.g. the vision and neural packages.
>
> The AREADME.html file has grown too large and repetitive and I plan to fix
> that.
>
> I hope that when everything is working perfectly (!) and there's a
> consensus about what should be included by default and what should not,
> then all the former can be installed on github, and perhaps also the
> optional extras after some testing.
>
> Anything you can do to check out the current version will be appreciated.
>
> Waldek,
>
> Would it be possible to add something like the above answer to the github
> web site so that, for the time being people can be redirected to the
> V16/AREADME.html for information on installing and using Poplog with all
> the old subsystems and packages?
>
> Aaron
>
>

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