Hello,
The version of Poplog used in the late 1990's is Poplog V15.5 (ballpark guess
on my part).
This version of Poplog (GetPoplog) available via the RPM and Debian packages
and PPA's is based up Polog Version 16.
It is not possible to rpm install the current rpm package onto Red Hat 6.2. In
addition to the difference in version of Poplg, rpm packages have a kernel
version dependency. A rpm package built for one kernel version will not
necessarily work on another kernel version - especially on a kernel nearly 20
years old.
Poplog on RH 6.2 might work using Poplog V15.5 source code and build
instructions but this introduces a host of potential issues. See
https://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/poplog/bugfixes/BUGREPORTS
Hope this helps.
Regards
Michael
As I recall: in the late 90's, we just DL-ed the then available poplog;
installed and ran it on the then available linux/S, [all 32 bit] with
no problems. It's not a shoe that wears-out !
Nothing new of EXTRA VALUE to poplog has been added.
I used mostly Slackware in those days. But it seems impossible that
popular RH6.2 would not have run THAT poplog. Therefore RH6.2 will
run "my 90's <poplogTarGz>" today and in 2029...
But I failed to install RH6.2.
== CRG.
PS. I've been led to believe that: 8086, 286, 386, 486, 686....<64bit>
are all <upwardly compatible>. If not: my failure cause is obvious.
!! I read a claim in a REFERENCE library that the <coming 586 could
do some magic>. Why is 586 MISSING !?!
I don't trust the Intel/M$pook monopolistic duo.
On 9/5/21, Aaron Sloman <a.slo...@cs.bham.ac.uk> wrote:
Chris wrote:
This thread is titled:
" Poplog available via RPM and Debian packages and PPAs " .
It's been obvious to me that if I could RE-install the setup/s that I
used for poplog in the 90s, I'd again have the poplog that I had THEN.
Since RH-6.2 was <mainstream> in those days: I fetched and tried to
install it.
I failed to get a running RH-6.2. Now "RPM" refers to RH-6.2.
Where is the info about RPM installation of poplog ?
== CRG.
RPM (= Redhat Package Manager) is the very old name for a toolset that has
multiple versions, that can produce packages in rpm format and install
systems
packaged in the rpm format. There is no guarantee that a newly created rpm
package will work on a very old redhat linux.
Despite the old name the technology has changed over the years and I doubt
that
current vrsion of rpm would be able to install any ancient poplog package.
The current RPM is described here:
https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/create-rpm-package
However, as far as I recall, rpm has never been used in the past for linux
poplog: instead only compressed tar files were made available from the
Birmingham site.
I have now found a collection of such files here going back to 2005.
https://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/poplog/oldgz/
The oldest package there is:
https://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/poplog/oldgz/bham-linux-poplog-2005-01-15.tar.gz
(i.e. 15 Jan 2005)
It has a collection of files of various sorts with instructions for creating
a
new poplog installation, which used to work on some versions of linux in
the
distant past.
(We never had resources/expertise to provide a professional level of service
for
poplog users, so users had to be willing to experiment and do some debugging
to
get poplog to work on their systems if the default instructions did not
work.)
Out of curiosity, on an old machine running Fedora 29 (with kernel
5.3.11-100.fc29.x86_64), I tried unpacking the above tar file, and also the
included tar file
linux-pc-1553.tar.gz
with a basepop11 dated 2005
When I tried running it, I got this:
/basepop11: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3:
I.e. it was looking for an ancient version of the motif library.
Someone who understands more of the working of the old poplog may be
able, on a suitable machine, to relink basepop11 without requiring
motif. There may be other fiddles required.
Alternately a recent version of /usr/lib/libXm.so *may* work, if
a symbolic link called libXm.so.3 is inserted in the directory, providing a
'fake' older version of motif.
I have no idea whether it could be made to work on your older version of
redhat.
If you have a computer running a newer version of linux you are far more
likely
to be able to get poplog working.
Good luck!
Aaron
