Yep, Yahoo's belly is severly swollen from all their consumption.

Egroups swallowed Onelist which is now being swallowed by Yahoo (see message 
below). (Onelist was the better of the two).

These are free (paid forby painful advertising)email list managers/services, 
in case you want to run a list like this one ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

This is another example of the over-consumption by the new mega-powers of the 
internet that does not foster competition nor choice to us users.

Anyone know of any other good free or cheap list managers?

Brian



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Dear Moderator:
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Subject: Yahoo! welcomes eGroups Moderators


Yahoo! has completed its acquisition of eGroups, and we're happy to
officially welcome you to the Yahoo! family. You can learn more about
the completion of the deal by reading our press release
(http://www.egroups.com/local/pr/pr083100.html). There is a great deal
of work ahead as we work to bring eGroups into the Yahoo!  network of
services, but we're very excited about the future.

We hope you'll be celebrating with us as we begin expanding our
ability to help people collaborate, exchange ideas, and build
relationships around the world.

Although we're busy working on future plans, it's important to know
that there will be no immediate changes to either the eGroups or
Yahoo! Clubs services. All of the current features, policies, and
services will continue to be supported.

Users will continue to be governed by the Terms of Service they
initially agreed to upon registering for either service. In other
words, the eGroups Terms of Service will continue to apply to eGroups
users.

Short term, we'll continue planning for the integrated service, while
trying our best to anticipate any major issues that might arise. We
will share news on our progress in the merger discussion group
(http://www.egroups.com/group/merger), and we encourage you to
participate in the dialogue by voicing your concerns.

We understand there will be a lot of questions regarding this
integration and we'll try to answer them all as best we can. We've
also created a Help Center (http://help.yahoo.com/help/egroups) on
Yahoo! to serve as a home for commonly asked questions.

Thanks for your patience, encouragement, and feedback throughout this
process.

All the best,

   The folks from eGroups and Yahoo!




-----Original Message-----
From: Alan S. Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 9:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [pop3] Yahoo problems


On 10 Sep 2000, 20:47, Mohammed R. Arjomandi wrote:

> Anybody with Yahoo POP3 problems? It asks my password. 

Oh yes.  Yahoo has been creating off and on problems for the last 
several days.  Not only have I encountered intermittent connection 
problems with various Yahoo accounts, I've seen several bounces from 
subscribers with Yahoo accounts.

The asking for a password or telling you that your password is 
incorrect is somewhat of a "red herring," meaning a false lead or 
impression.  Those reports are often just your client's interpretation 
of an error code.  Rarely is there an actual password problem.  If your 
password worked before, it should not be considered the cause of the 
error.  This is just a connection problem with the Yahoo mail servers.

Yahoo seems to be having all kinds of problems.  Frankly, I think they 
are just too darn big.  They just cannot keep up with their own growth. 
It goes to show you that "Bigger" is not necessarily "Better," as has 
been thought before.  Certainly not in the case of remote poppers.


Alan
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