What exactly do you mean by “rendering for printing”?   Do you mean rasterizing 
the page to a “bitmap” OR conversion to a PDL such as Postscript OR something 
else?

The exactly output format plays a HUGE factor in whether color management (or 
any sort) is required or necessary.

Leonard

From: poppler <poppler-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org> on behalf of William 
Bader <williamba...@hotmail.com>
Date: Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:02 AM
To: "poppler@lists.freedesktop.org" <poppler@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [poppler] Color conversion while rendering for printing


ghostscript had a similar issue with performance, and they added a 
-dUseFastColor to bypass ICC lookups.  
https://www.ghostscript.com/doc/9.23/Use.htm#EPS_parameters<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ghostscript.com%2Fdoc%2F9.23%2FUse.htm%23EPS_parameters&data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7C568c5e86e9ac4b0ade6208d5cfa404d5%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636643225726934480&sdata=keEYP9Bj9FO796Mbqs0j8ktGGT4x3SD6yeE%2Fx7lvOnQ%3D&reserved=0>

They are also working on a fork of LCMS that is faster and thread-safe. 
https://www.ghostscript.com/doc/9.23/History9.htm#Version9.23<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ghostscript.com%2Fdoc%2F9.23%2FHistory9.htm%23Version9.23&data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7C568c5e86e9ac4b0ade6208d5cfa404d5%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636643225726934480&sdata=Y0%2B4L3yXNhQkXUD4Q039N3252ntXBlssZ5VVNQlX3Uw%3D&reserved=0>



I think that only the final application to process the file should apply the 
color conversion. Viewers know that they are the final application. When 
poppler renders a document, it doesn't know if the results will be sent to 
another application, to a printer that will apply its own color conversion, or 
to a printer that will output it directly. That might be another reason to make 
it optional.



William

________________________________
From: poppler <poppler-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org> on behalf of Carlos 
Garcia Campos <carlo...@gnome.org>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:10 AM
To: poppler@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: [poppler] Color conversion while rendering for printing


Hi,

does it make sense to do color conversions using CMS while rendering
document for printing? I don't know much about CMS, I'm asking because
libcms is very very slow in some documents. When rendering individual
pages like viewers do, the slowdown is not that noticeable, but when
printing an entire document the slowdown is very annoying. I think we
could use the existing printing flag we pass when creating the GfxState
to not use CMS.

Thanks,
--
Carlos Garcia Campos
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