On 5/30/26 12:44, Mark Millard wrote:
> On 5/30/26 06:15, void wrote:
>> On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 09:15:42AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
>>
>>> Note: the above are general comments that suggest the result may not be
>>> surprising. I did not analyze the specifics for the timing related to
>>> db5 and pcre .
>>
>> pcre was EoL'd on 2021-06-21 going by
>> https://www.pcre.org/original/changelog.txt
>> and marked deprecated on 29 Feb 2024 in
>> https://www.freshports.org/devel/pcre/
>>
>> db5, according to https://www.freshports.org/databases/db5/
>>
>> Deprecated: EOLd, potential security issues, maybe use db18 instead
>> This port expired on: 2022-06-30
>
> The builders do not change what they build until after the ports are
> updated, for sure . . .
>
> That FreeBSD never disabled or deleted those ports tells me that folks
> were not willing/able to deal with the related handling (updating or
> disabling/deleting) of some or all of:
>
> (Note: these might not include the full transitive closure of what all
> ends up dependent via what is listed.)
>
> # pkg rquery -r FreeBSD-ports "%ro" devel/pcre | sort -u
> audio/libmp3splt
> audio/vimpc
> audio/zrythm
> benchmarks/octave-forge-benchmark
> biology/ncbi-cxx-toolkit
> databases/dbtool
> databases/sqlite-ext-pcre
> deskutils/hs-arbtt
> deskutils/xneur
> devel/aifad
> devel/bitkeeper
> devel/coccinelle
> devel/cppcheck
> devel/libast
> devel/libklel
> devel/libr3
> devel/libslang2
> devel/ocaml-pcre
> devel/regexx
> devel/shedskin
> devel/swig40
> devel/tup
> dns/dnshistory
> editors/mp
> editors/ted
> emulators/open-simh
> emulators/xcpc
> games/ezquake
> games/ivan
> games/ldmud
> games/mvdsv
> graphics/blender4
> graphics/gource
> graphics/opencollada
> lang/crystal
> lang/nim
> mail/cyrus-imapd25
> mail/cyrus-imapd30
> mail/cyrus-imapd32
> mail/cyrus-imapd34
> mail/cyrus-imapd36
> mail/cyrus-imapd38
> mail/rmilter
> mail/sentinel
> math/cadabra2
> math/octave
> math/octave-forge-actuarial
> math/octave-forge-apa
> math/octave-forge-audio
> math/octave-forge-automatic-differentiation
> math/octave-forge-bim
> math/octave-forge-bioinfo
> math/octave-forge-biosig
> math/octave-forge-bsltl
> math/octave-forge-cfitsio
> math/octave-forge-cgi
> math/octave-forge-civil-engineering
> math/octave-forge-coder
> math/octave-forge-communications
> math/octave-forge-control
> math/octave-forge-csg-dataset
> math/octave-forge-csg-toolkit
> math/octave-forge-dataframe
> math/octave-forge-datatypes
> math/octave-forge-dicom
> math/octave-forge-divand
> math/octave-forge-doctest
> math/octave-forge-fda
> math/octave-forge-femoctave
> math/octave-forge-fenv
> math/octave-forge-fileio
> math/octave-forge-financial
> math/octave-forge-fl-core
> math/octave-forge-fpl
> math/octave-forge-fuzzy-logic-toolkit
> math/octave-forge-fxp
> math/octave-forge-ga
> math/octave-forge-general
> math/octave-forge-generate_html
> math/octave-forge-geographiclib
> math/octave-forge-geometry
> math/octave-forge-gsl
> math/octave-forge-hdf5oct
> math/octave-forge-ident
> math/octave-forge-image
> math/octave-forge-instrument-control
> math/octave-forge-integration
> math/octave-forge-internal-fluid-flow
> math/octave-forge-interval
> math/octave-forge-io
> math/octave-forge-joystick
> math/octave-forge-linear-algebra
> math/octave-forge-llms
> math/octave-forge-lssa
> math/octave-forge-ltfat
> math/octave-forge-mapping
> math/octave-forge-matgeom
> math/octave-forge-mboct-fem-pkg
> math/octave-forge-mboct-mbdyn-pkg
> math/octave-forge-mboct-numerical-pkg
> math/octave-forge-mboct-octave-pkg
> math/octave-forge-mccabe-thiele
> math/octave-forge-miscellaneous
> math/octave-forge-missing-functions
> math/octave-forge-mqtt
> math/octave-forge-msh
> math/octave-forge-multicore
> math/octave-forge-mvn
> math/octave-forge-mysql
> math/octave-forge-nan
> math/octave-forge-ncarray
> math/octave-forge-netcdf
> math/octave-forge-nurbs
> math/octave-forge-oct2mat
> math/octave-forge-octave-pool
> math/octave-forge-octave_boost
> math/octave-forge-octave_ffmpeg_free
> math/octave-forge-octave_mermaid_js
> math/octave-forge-octave_php_wrapper
> math/octave-forge-octave_tar
> math/octave-forge-octave_zstd
> math/octave-forge-octclip
> math/octave-forge-octproj
> math/octave-forge-odbc
> math/octave-forge-odebvp
> math/octave-forge-optics
> math/octave-forge-optim
> math/octave-forge-optiminterp
> math/octave-forge-outliers
> math/octave-forge-parallel
> math/octave-forge-pde1dm
> math/octave-forge-pkg-octave-doc
> math/octave-forge-ponchon-savarit
> math/octave-forge-prompt
> math/octave-forge-psychrometrics
> math/octave-forge-pythonic
> math/octave-forge-quaternion
> math/octave-forge-queueing
> math/octave-forge-rf
> math/octave-forge-rtree
> math/octave-forge-secs1d
> math/octave-forge-secs2d
> math/octave-forge-secs3d
> math/octave-forge-signal
> math/octave-forge-simp
> math/octave-forge-sockets
> math/octave-forge-sole
> math/octave-forge-sparsersb
> math/octave-forge-special-matrix
> math/octave-forge-splines
> math/octave-forge-sqlite
> math/octave-forge-statistics
> math/octave-forge-statistics-resampling
> math/octave-forge-stk
> math/octave-forge-strings
> math/octave-forge-struct
> math/octave-forge-symbolic
> math/octave-forge-tablicious
> math/octave-forge-tcl-octave
> math/octave-forge-timer
> math/octave-forge-tsa
> math/octave-forge-velas
> math/octave-forge-video
> math/octave-forge-websockets
> math/octave-forge-zenity
> math/octave-forge-zeromq
> math/scilab
> misc/wmweather+
> net-mgmt/aircrack-ng
> net-mgmt/grepip
> net-mgmt/kismet
> net-mgmt/pads
> net-mgmt/xymon-server
> net-mgmt/yaf
> net/freeswitch
> net/haproxy24
> net/honeyd
> net/libyang
> net/megacmd
> net/pacemaker2
> net/pecl-oauth2
> net/tinyfugue
> science/paraview
> science/zotero
> security/bsmtrace3
> security/ftimes
> security/hydra
> security/libprelude
> security/libpreludedb
> security/pev
> security/snort
> sysutils/ccze
> sysutils/cfengine
> sysutils/cfengine-devel
> sysutils/cfengine-lts
> sysutils/cfengine324
> sysutils/cfengine325
> sysutils/cfengine326
> sysutils/cfengine327
> sysutils/ftwin
> sysutils/ganglia-monitor-core
> sysutils/gsmartcontrol
> sysutils/hardlink
> sysutils/metalog
> sysutils/rdup
> sysutils/watchman
> textproc/cgrep
> textproc/modlogan
> textproc/py-pyscss
> textproc/the_silver_searcher
> www/angie-module-lua
> www/c-icap
> www/cas
> www/e2guardian
> www/hypermail
> www/kannel
> www/kannel-sqlbox
> www/kf5-kjs
> www/mod_auth_cas
> www/nginx-full
> www/openresty
> www/rejik
> www/sarg
> www/trafficserver
> x11-wm/compton
>
> # pkg rquery -r FreeBSD-ports "%ro" databases/db18 | sort -u
> comms/xastir
> devel/rsvndump
> editors/nvi2
> mail/vacation
> net-p2p/litecoin
> net-p2p/litecoin-daemon
> net-p2p/litecoin-utils
> net/netatalk4
> security/pks
> www/crawl
>
>
> For reference:
>
> The context for the above is: main amd64, aarch64 might be somewhat
> different, for example.
>
>
Also, at least one notation indicates some explicit references:
# grep -r bdb:5 /usr/ports/ | sort -u
/usr/ports/devel/apr1/Makefile:BDB5_USES= bdb:5
/usr/ports/mail/greyfix/Makefile:USES= bdb:5+
/usr/ports/net-p2p/namecoin/Makefile:WALLET_USES= bdb:5+
/usr/ports/security/heimdal/Makefile:BDB_USES= bdb:5 localbase
/usr/ports/textproc/redland/Makefile:BDB_USES= bdb:5
And then there are the defaults, which is probably what your original
wording was about but I guessed incorrectly about that intent:
# grep -ri -e bdb -e db5 /usr/ports/Mk/ | grep 5 | sort -u
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:# necessary (db5 if compatible).
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:. if ${_BDB_VER} == 5
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:BDB_LIB_CXX_NAME= db_cxx-5.3
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:BDB_LIB_DIR= ${LOCALBASE}/lib/db5
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:BDB_LIB_NAME= db-5.3
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:_BDB_OLDPLUSVERS=4+ 40+ 41+ 42+ 43+ 44+ 45+
46+ 47+ 48+
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:_bdb_ARGS:= 5+
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:db5_DEPENDS= libdb-5.3.so:databases/db5
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/bdb.mk:db5_FIND= ${LOCALBASE}/include/db5/db.h
/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/dbus-testing.mk: . . . (ingore this one) . . .
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.default-versions.mk:BDB_DEFAULT?= 5
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.options.desc.mk:BDB1_DESC?= Berkeley DB 1.85 support
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Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
