On Thursday 20 April 2006 11:34 am, Hannah Schroeter wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 09:32:52AM -0400, Kurt Miller wrote:
> >On Thursday 20 April 2006 8:12 am, Edd Barrett wrote:
> >> One of my friends recently pointed out that FreeBSD are distributing
> >> Java 5 binaries and actually are licensed to do so from Sun
> >> Microsystems! I'm not sure how long thats been happening, but has
> >> anyone made any effort to try to bag a similar agreement for OpenBSD?
> >> If not I am willing to give it a try (with the consent of the OBSD
> >> developers). I think have an email address of a Java Core developer I
> >> met at JavaUK06.
> 
> >There are two primary reasons why we will not be able
> >to distribute java binaries:
> 
> >1) Legal: The OpenBSD project is a collection of individuals.
> >There is no legal entity associated with the project like a
> >Foundation or non-profit org. That means there is no singal
> >point of contact for Sun to contract with and shield the
> >developers from liability.
> 
> >2) Political: Even if #1 were solved, the binaries would
> >come with a binary only license that is incompatible with
> >the projects goals.
> 
> IIRC the project goals mostly apply to base, while the "rules" for
> licencing in ports/packages are less strict. E.g. no new GPL stuff in
> base, but new GPL ports/packages are ok. Even more restrictive licences
> are accepted, e.g. in textproc/glimpse, where OpenBSD mirrors distfiles
> and distributes packages via ftp (but not on CDs because of the
> licence conditions).

Sorry. I wasn't too clear about that. The binaries are only
distributeable via a click through license that would need
to be hosted somewhere. Hosting that click through license
on the project web site is what I was referring to. The
binary would not be able to be mirrored too. 

> >On the other hand, I have applied as an individual to Sun's
> >scholarship program to get access to the test kit for 1.5
> >(JCK). I was approved by the scholarship committee and now
> >waiting on Sun to get them.
> 
> Do you know without having to check whether it'd be possible for an
> individual to obtain such a licence from Sun and distribute inofficial
> (wrt the OpenBSD project) Java packages then? Or would that bee too
> risky from a legal POV?

I wouldn't put my assets (house, retirement, etc) at risk
to lawsuits from Sun or users of the binaries. I don't think
anyone would really want to do that.

-Kurt

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