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Hi Nikolay,

Linux compatibility should enable installing of:

Mathematica
Maple
MatLab
Oracle

as well as Opera.  I think Opera is a handy way of seeing how Flash can
work. (Despite many partial answers to the annoying Flash problem, Opera
seems the easiest).

There often are developments in other operating systems that one may wish
to use from time to time, until we have a native port, and those of us who
feel comfortable in the OpenBSD environment hate to have to run other
operating systems to get access to something, even temporarily.

At the moment, I am working with an APL specialist to whom I related the
ability of OpenBSD to run Linux binaries, and gave a mistakenly rosy
picture of how easy this was.  In their Linux versions, neither of the two
major APL interpreters, APLX and Dialog, seem to work with OpenBSD with
Linux emulation turned on, although APLX works for very small data spaces,
but hangs up mysteriously when formatting output of matrices of 50 x 50
or larger.

The applications intended to be run are complex financial models of
interest to Wall Street and the banking industry, and currently being run
by it's major users in a Windows environment.

My idea, working with the author of the applications, was to first get the
APL interpreters working under Linux emulation mode, and later see if we
could persuade the APL Interpreter software makers to make native OpenBSD
versions.  The general idea being: why not run then under OpenBSD since
these calculations are supposed to be very secret and sensitive. Not that
just running the aps on OpenBSD solves all the problem, which requires
network security at many levels, but it would at least sound good for a
start.  OpenBSD, (I have noticed in my role of handling CD orders), is
widely used in network infrastructure in the banking industry, and even by
a number of national banks.

Since we couldn't get the big blobs (the APL interpreters) to work easily,
I thought I would see if some of the Linux utilities in the compatibility
package would work before working on the particular APL project.

So, sure, if compat_linux is about to be deprecated then we can just
forget about it, but I still think that the very large Linux world out
there is going to continue to germinate aps that we don't have, and it's
nice not to have to change totally to another environment besides OpenBSD
to explore them.

Anyway, I'd still appreciate your insight, even if only presuming
hypothetically, that compat-linux was worth the effort.  It would also
give me some broader vision of the how to approach issues.

Regards,

Austin


On Tue, 19 May 2009, Nikolay Sturt wrote:

> * Austin Hook [2009-05-18]:
> > Just curious, which way would you fix it?
>
> I wouldn't care about it at all. In my opinion the fedora_base package
> just exists to make opera and one or two other programs run and that's
> it. If tools of the fedora_base package don't work, it doesn't matter,
> we don't need them. Linux compat is dying code anyways...
>
> cheers,
>
> Nikolay
>
> --
> "It's all part of my Can't-Do approach to life." Wally
>

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