Marc and Stuart (and whoever else was involved), thanks for the work done on this stuff. It is simple and clean for me as a user and I have trust in the integrity of what I'm receiving. I don't take it for granted.
And there's probably a ton more involved that I'm not aware of yet, but I trust in you guys to do the right thing (tm) all the time for users. Trust is a big deal. Sadly, the OP could have saved a lot of effort for everyone if they just would have remembered there's other humans on the other side of the email. And the fundamentals of communication include if you want to have a real conversation with someone where they listen to you, don't come at them guns blazing and emotional. Thanks for explaining things (for the rest of us that are curious). Hope you didn't let the emotional outrage of a random person on the Internet infect you. On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 08:40:29PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 08:04:23PM +0300, Leonid Bobrov wrote: > > > An all-arches package snapshot currently runs at 200GB and adding > > > symbols across the board would add a lot to this. > > > > Stuart and Espie, have you ever heard of compression? > > WTF is wrong with you ? > > I haven't participated to that thread yet, but I wager I know more about > compression than you do. > > Just have a fucking look at the code in signify, the pkg tools, and more > generally, EVERYWHERE I have touched in BSD before spouting insults like > this. > > Most specifically: > - we do use gzip because other compression systems won't work with little > memory/don't have the right licence. > - gzip allows you to stick COMMENTS in the header, which is where the > signature lives. I DID A WHOLE FUCKING PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT DESIGN > CHOICE. > - pkg_create uses an LRU cache to make updates faster. And we use some > specificities of gzip to make packages amenable to using rsync actually. > - Stuart has wasted hours getting mirrors to work as good as they can. > - *we* have spent hours trying to share stuff while keeping things secure. > > It *still* doesn't change the fact that a full snapshot takes up a lot of > space. And it's an important factor in having enough sites provide mirrors. > > It's also an important factor in making sure snapshots are distributed > quickly. > > Heck, there are design choices in package snapshots to avoid shearing. > > So, to summarize. Get the hell away from this mailing-list. > > I don't want to have anything to do with a condescending idiot who sends > disparaging comments my way 100% out of the blue. > > Fuck you very much, > > -- > Marc > -- Chris Humphries <ch...@sogubsys.com> 5223 9548 E1DE DE87 F509 1888 8141 8451 6338 DD29
