Greg:

I posted this file in 2004. Please let me know what you decide. If you decide to remove it, I'll take care of it and recycle the number.

Joe

----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Newby" <[email protected]>
To: "Project Gutenberg Postings Announcements" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [posted] !!COPYRIGHT PROBLEM Re: Posted (#26303, Wodehouse) !


Thanks for this, John.  I'm attaching the scans of the
title page & verso for this item, which was cleared in 2003.

Am I correct in thinking that your research indicates the
1922 date in the publication is incorrect, and that it was
actually from 1934?

Thanks for your research into this.  I believe you are correct
that the majority of resources point to a later publication date.

Pending your response, I agree it might be necessary to remove
this from the collection.
 -- Greg

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:24:12AM -0500, John Mark Ockerbloom wrote:
As far as I've been able to determine, _Right Ho, Jeeves_
is *not* in the public domain, and this etext and #10554
(the plain text version of this book) should be withdrawn
(unless Gutenberg has permission from Wodehouse's estate).

The problem seems to stem from some recent reprints (such
as from Hutchinson) that state that the story was first published
in Great Britain by Herbert Jenkins Ltd in 1922, and give
a copyright date of 1922.  I'm guessing this was the information
Gutenberg used to clear this book, since 1922 copyrights have
expired in the US.

However, the statements in the reprints are inaccurate.
According to McIlvaine et al's _P. G. Wodehouse: A Comprehensive
Bibliography and Checklist_, Herbert Jenkins was indeed the first
publisher of the story in book form, but it was not published
until 1934.  Moreover, the story's first publication was actually
as a magazine serial, running in the Saturday Evening Post from
Dec. 23, 1933 to Jan. 27, 1934.

(I've also found no edition predating 1933 either in WorldCat, OCLC's
 union catalog of libraries in North America and elsewhere, or in
 COPAC, the British union catalog.  There are a few editions marked
 "1922" in WorldCat, but on closer inspection they all turn out to be
 recent reprints.)

Copyrights to the Saturday Evening Post were routinely renewed.
The renewals for the issues in which the installments of "Right-Ho
Jeeves" first appeared can be found on these scanned Catalog of
Copyright Entries pages:


http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015085477332;view=1up;seq=183

and


http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015085477332;view=1up;seq=414

(I am not a lawyer, but I've been assuming, and I think Project Gutenberg
assumes as well, that renewal of a periodical issue's copyright also renews
 the copyright of content that first appears there.)

Wikisource has recently withdrawn its copy of _Right-Ho, Jeeves_ due to
copyright concerns, which is what tipped me off to the potential problem.
I recommend that Project Gutenberg review the status of this work as well.

John Mark Ockerbloom







On 08/13/2008 04:38 PM, Joshua Hutchinson wrote:
>Audio: Right Ho, Jeeves by P.G. Wodehouse >26303
>     [Audio reading by Mark Nelson ]
>     [Link: http://www.gutenberg.org/2/6/3/0/26303 ]
>     [Files: 26303.txt; 26303-mp3.mp3; 26303-ogg.ogg; 26303-m4b.m4b;
>26303-spx.spx ]
>
>
>Thanks to Mark Nelson
>           and Librivox (www.librivox.org)
>
>Josh
>


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