On 26-Oct-08, at 12:11 AM, Stroller wrote:
On 26 Oct 2008, at 01:43, Charles Darwin wrote:
On 25-Oct-08, at 2:54 PM, Stroller wrote:
On 25 Oct 2008, at 17:01, Charles Darwin wrote:
...
In layman terms, what do mydomain and relayhost stand for? I am
running 9.5.0 Darwin (think BSD) and I would like to setup my
postfix to send messages to other machines on my network and/or
over the Internet.
In your case, from the headers of your email, mydomain is
dsl.bell.ca
Your "myhostname" would be bas2-montreal45-1279494405.dsl.bell.ca,
although you would probably JUST use relayhost and ignore these
settings.
#Yes indeed. Very nice.
$ postconf |grep bell
mydomain = dsl.bell.ca
myhostname = bas2-montreal45-1242554840.dsl.bell.ca
$ curl -s http://checkip.dyndns.org/ |sed 's/^.*ss:\ \(.*[0-9]\)\<.*
$/\1/'
74.15.225.216
Now question is who puts it into postconf's output. Does postfix
gets it from my network settings automatically?
I'm surprised to read you asking this. I meant "this is what your
mydomain would or should be". I'm afraid I'm too inexperienced to
answer that question - I have always configured them manually on my
Linux systems.
I am asking because if this is something that postfix inherits if you
will automatically then why bother defining it manually?
I use, for example, smtp.gmail.com when I use my gmail account and
there Apple's Mail.app takes care of authentication and the rest of
it. Do I have to setup postfix to do that as well?
You can do.
Can postfix authenticate to gmail too?
Yes.
See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl
My ISP's SMTP is smtp1.sympatico.ca , if that helps.
I would probably relay via this server (set it as "relayhost" in
main.cf), as most ISP's will normally just allow anyone on their
network to send mail through their SMTP servers without
authenticating.
$ cat /Volumes/neo/opt/etc/postfix/main.cf |grep ^my && cat /Volumes/
neo/opt/etc/postfix/main.cf |grep ^relay
myhostname = $(uname -n) #since this is dynamic; the one serving
yesterday is not available today
mydomain = dsl.bell.ca
relayhost = smtp1.sympatico.ca
#Firing up postfix and sending a test message 'mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
$ tail -f /var/log/mail.log
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/master[383]: daemon
started -- version 2.4.3, configuration /etc/postfix
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
4A7521F61D7: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=303, nrcpt=1 (queue
active)
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B3BB917FE7F: from=<>, size=2238, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
6E22817FC75: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=304, nrcpt=1 (queue
active)
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B807617FE80: from=<>, size=2232, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
93F9917FEFC: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=304, nrcpt=1 (queue
active)
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
BAA7F17FE82: from=<>, size=2236, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B56C21F61F4: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=303, nrcpt=1 (queue
active)
Oct 26 10:30:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
C4FE417FC0D: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=305, nrcpt=1 (queue
active)
Oct 26 10:30:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[394]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Connection refused (port
25)
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[388]: connect
to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation
timed out (port 25)
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[390]: connect
to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation
timed out (port 25)
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[392]: connect
to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation
timed out (port 25)
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[388]:
B3BB917FE7F: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
relay=none, delay=688172, delays=688142/0.14/30/0, dsn=4.4.1,
status=deferred (connect to bas2-
montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[390]:
B807617FE80: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
relay=none, delay=688172, delays=688142/0.09/30/0, dsn=4.4.1,
status=deferred (connect to bas2-
montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[392]:
BAA7F17FE82: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
relay=none, delay=688172, delays=688142/0.07/30/0, dsn=4.4.1,
status=deferred (connect to bas2-
montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B807617FE80: from=<>, status=expired, returned to sender
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B3BB917FE7F: from=<>, status=expired, returned to sender
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
BAA7F17FE82: from=<>, status=expired, returned to sender
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B807617FE80: removed
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B3BB917FE7F: removed
Oct 26 10:31:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
BAA7F17FE82: removed
Oct 26 10:31:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[389]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port
25)
Oct 26 10:31:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[391]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:31:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[393]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:31:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[387]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:31:24 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[394]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port
25)
Oct 26 10:31:49 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[389]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:31:49 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[391]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port
25)
Oct 26 10:31:49 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[393]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port
25)
Oct 26 10:31:49 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[387]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port
25)
Oct 26 10:31:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[394]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.114]: Operation timed
out (port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[389]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.114]: Operation timed
out (port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[391]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[393]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[387]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:24 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[394]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:34 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/master[411]: fatal:
open lock file pid/master.pid: unable to set exclusive lock: Resource
temporarily unavailable
Oct 26 10:32:34 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/pickup[384]:
46837217D8B: uid=501 from=<pm>
Oct 26 10:32:34 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/cleanup[412]:
46837217D8B: message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Oct 26 10:32:34 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
46837217D8B: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=368, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:32:49 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[389]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:49 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[391]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:49 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[393]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:49 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[387]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[394]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:32:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[394]:
C4FE417FC0D: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=688565,
delays=688440/0.06/125/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.27]: Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:32:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
C4FE417FC0D: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, status=expired, returned to
sender
Oct 26 10:32:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/cleanup[412]:
1C034217D8D: message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Oct 26 10:32:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
1C034217D8D: from=<>, size=2341, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:32:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/bounce[407]:
C4FE417FC0D: sender non-delivery notification: 1C034217D8D
Oct 26 10:32:54 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
C4FE417FC0D: removed
Oct 26 10:32:58 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[390]:
1C034217D8D: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=4,
delays=0.01/0/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not
found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host not
found, try again)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[389]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[389]:
6E22817FC75: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=688415,
delays=688264/0.1/150/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.27]: Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
6E22817FC75: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, status=expired, returned to
sender
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[391]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[393]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/cleanup[412]:
13F2C217D94: message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[387]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[391]:
93F9917FEFC: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=687798,
delays=687648/0.08/150/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.27]: Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
13F2C217D94: from=<>, size=2340, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/bounce[406]:
6E22817FC75: sender non-delivery notification: 13F2C217D94
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[393]:
B56C21F61F4: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=680554,
delays=680404/0.07/150/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114]: Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[387]:
4A7521F61D7: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=680580,
delays=680429/0.19/150/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114]: Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
93F9917FEFC: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, status=expired, returned to
sender
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
6E22817FC75: removed
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
4A7521F61D7: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, status=expired, returned to
sender
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B56C21F61F4: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, status=expired, returned to
sender
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/cleanup[412]:
20FE7217D99: message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
20FE7217D99: from=<>, size=2352, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/bounce[407]:
93F9917FEFC: sender non-delivery notification: 20FE7217D99
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
93F9917FEFC: removed
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/cleanup[412]:
24135217D9B: message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/cleanup[420]:
23FB2217D9A: message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/bounce[418]:
4A7521F61D7: sender non-delivery notification: 23FB2217D9A
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
23FB2217D9A: from=<>, size=2351, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/bounce[417]:
B56C21F61F4: sender non-delivery notification: 24135217D9B
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
4A7521F61D7: removed
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
24135217D9B: from=<>, size=2351, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
B56C21F61F4: removed
Oct 26 10:33:19 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/error[419]:
46837217D8B: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=45,
delays=0.03/45/0/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (delivery temporarily
suspended: connect to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114]:
Operation timed out)
Oct 26 10:33:23 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[394]:
13F2C217D94: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=4.1,
delays=0.03/0.02/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name
not found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host
not found, try again)
Oct 26 10:33:23 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[387]:
20FE7217D99: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=4,
delays=0.02/0/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not
found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host not
found, try again)
Oct 26 10:33:23 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[390]:
23FB2217D9A: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=4.1,
delays=0.03/0.03/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name
not found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host
not found, try again)
Oct 26 10:33:23 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[389]:
24135217D9B: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=4.1,
delays=0.05/0/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not
found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host not
found, try again)
### trying to isolate the problem by changing the relayhost
### $ cat /Volumes/neo/opt/etc/postfix/main.cf |grep ^relay
### relayhost = smtp1.sympatico.ca
Oct 26 10:40:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
13F2C217D94: from=<>, size=2340, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:40:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
1C034217D8D: from=<>, size=2341, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:40:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
20FE7217D99: from=<>, size=2352, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:40:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
23FB2217D9A: from=<>, size=2351, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:40:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
24135217D9B: from=<>, size=2351, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:40:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/qmgr[385]:
46837217D8B: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=368, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 26 10:40:52 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[462]:
1C034217D8D: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=478,
delays=474/0.02/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name
not found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host
not found, try again)
Oct 26 10:40:52 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[460]:
13F2C217D94: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=453,
delays=449/0.02/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name
not found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host
not found, try again)
Oct 26 10:40:52 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[464]:
23FB2217D9A: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=453,
delays=449/0.03/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name
not found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host
not found, try again)
Oct 26 10:40:52 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[463]:
20FE7217D99: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=453,
delays=449/0.02/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name
not found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host
not found, try again)
Oct 26 10:40:52 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[465]:
24135217D9B: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=453,
delays=449/0.04/4/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name
not found. Name service error for name=pms-macbook.local type=MX: Host
not found, try again)
Oct 26 10:41:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[466]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port
25)
Oct 26 10:41:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[466]: connect
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:42:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[466]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.114]: Operation timed
out (port 25)
Oct 26 10:42:48 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[466]: connect
to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.199.27]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:43:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[466]: connect
to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114]: Operation timed out
(port 25)
Oct 26 10:43:18 bas2-montreal45-1242554961 postfix/smtp[466]:
46837217D8B: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=644,
delays=494/0.04/150/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114]: Operation timed out)
In Mail.app you could use this instead of the Gmail SMTP server. But
if your machine is a laptop, then it will not be allowed to relay
through smtp1.sympatico.ca when you're visiting your cousin who uses
another ISP, so in that case Gmail would make sense. Note though
that Gmail reformat outgoing addresses, so even if you wanted the
from: address to read "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" it would be altered to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and what about the network mailing question? How do I send mail
p2p? and how does sendmail, BSD's `mail' and pickup directory
factor into all of this? Not from my home ISP but at university I
have had with with pickup directory (who is hosting that I wish I
knew) and permissions there. My ISP's SMTP is smtp1.sympatico.ca ,
if that helps.
...
I am supervising 10 other macs and I want them to mail their IPs as
soon as they get one (and report some other parameter of the
machine). I have it all scripted and just need a mail agent that I
can script. Plus sending mail from command line is cool. BTW
Apple's Mail.app used to handle unix type mail accounts. It is no
longer an option. Do you know how I can set it up to work with
`mail' or postfix again?
Ok, when postfix receives a message destined for mydestination it
puts it ~addressee/home_mailbox, where `postconfig | grep
home_mailbox`. Often one will run a POP3 or IMAP server, and when a
client connects via POP3 or IMAP the server configuration tells it
to get the messages from there.
Unix mailclients like pine, mutt & Thunderbird have an option to
read the mails directly from a store directory (i.e. home_mailbox),
and perhaps this is what you mean by your "pickup directory". If
Mail.app had this facility I think it must have been before I
started using it, 10.3
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>
The problem with the way Mail.app stores its mail is that it has
separate store directories for each account, e.g. ~/Library/Mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/INBOX.imapmbox/Messages/ (where mail.stroller.uk.eu.org is my IMAP
server) and there's no way to know - and tell postfix - of a full
valid mailbox directory for any given user, so if you try shoving
messages directly into there with postfix then things will break
when you add a new user to the system & try delivering mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] An alternative might be to run cron
jobs to move them from the store directory to there, but this too is
prone to breakage. Oh, you might be able to tell Mail.app to read
from a store directory by hacking Mail's plist file, but you'd have
to do this manually for each user on the system.
A more elegant way to do things - since you ask about sending mail
"p2p" - is to run a POP server on your main machine (with .maildir
as the home_mailbox name, so that it's hidden in Finder, or just
using virtual mailboxes) and just tell Mail.app to connect to
localhost and get the mail through the POP protocol.
This is pretty much what I would like to do at university. I would
like to have my lab computers send p2p messages to each other without
burdening the server. I will post the results tomorrow when I have
access to machines.
Charles
Honestly, this is why I have a Linux box in the cupboard under the
stairs, so that I can run Unixy stuff without the headaches.
The best way would probably to have all machines relay through
smtp1.sympatico.ca (perhaps relaying first through a "master"
postfix server on the LAN) and simply address messages to your gmail
account or whatever.
Stroller.
Update: I have another question and that is about hosting a mail
server. Is it like hosting a web server? Like one does with apache?
would that be a solution to the p2p question?
Charles
