Hello.

Is it somehow possible to improve the interaction in between
addressverification on the local, and greylisting on the remote
side?  I have very good experience with "AV" except for certain
"AV"<->"AV" well "locks" that i have seen once or twice but of
which i have forgotten anything, and its interaction with
greylisting.

Actually, i do not truly understand why, in the below, things are
finished.  It seems to me the other side gets no sign that should
make it think that there is no way to not succeed at a later
time?  Yet, it does not (well, *that* could, but i know it will
not, i have seen this pattern in the past from that host, yet with
another domain name).

Only to be very clear about it for myself -- postfix does not
indicate a permanent error in the below?  It gives 450 (4.1.7 RFC
3463).  *Could* it make any sense to "pass through" a 451
condition instead if address verification gets such a response?
For now all i (think i) can do i whitelisting also this domain.

  Sep  3 10:21:53 ouwa/smtpd[24399]: connect from ..[..]
  Sep  3 10:21:53 ouwa/smtpd[24399]: Anonymous TLS connection established from 
..[..]: TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange 
secp256r1 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256
  Sep  3 10:21:55 postfix/tlsproxy[24412]: CONNECT to [..]:25
  Sep  3 10:21:55 postfix/smtp[24409]: Trusted TLS connection established to 
..[..]:25: TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) 
key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384
  Sep  3 10:21:55 postfix/smtp[24409]: AE23716065: to=<..>, relay=..[..]:25, 
delay=0.78, delays=0.21/0.05/0.29/0.23, dsn=4.0.0, status=undeliverable (host 
..[..] said: 451-217.144.132.164 is not yet authorized to deliver mail from 
451-<[email protected]> to <..>. Please try 451 later. (in reply to RCPT 
TO command))
  Sep  3 10:21:55 postfix/tlsproxy[24412]: DISCONNECT [..]:25
  Sep  3 10:21:55 postfix/qmgr[3065]: AE23716065: removed
  Sep  3 10:21:57 ouwa/smtpd[24399]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from ..[..]: 450 
4.1.7 <..>: Sender address rejected: unverified address: host ..[..] said: 
451-217.144.132.164 is not yet authorized to deliver mail from 
451-<[email protected]> to <..>. Please try 451 later. (in reply to RCPT 
TO command); from=<..> to=<[email protected]> proto=ESMTP helo=<..>
  Sep  3 10:21:59 ouwa/smtpd[24399]: NOQUEUE: too many errors after BDAT from 
..[..]
  Sep  3 10:21:59 ouwa/smtpd[24399]: disconnect from ..[..] ehlo=2 starttls=1 
mail=1 rcpt=0/1 bdat=0/1 commands=4/6

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
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