On 2010-03-04 Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 2010-03-03 4:49 PM, Ansgar Wiechers wrote:
>> Read again. The "sent items" folder is in the user's mailbox, which
>> Thunderbird most certainly does *not* access via SMTP, but via IMAP.
> 
> My point was, if you want this to be done *without* TB having to save
> it to the Sent folder itself, it would essentially *have* to be done
> during the smtp transaction - there's simply no other way to do it.

Which, if you carefully re-read the mail you initially replied to, is
what I already wrote in the part that you chose to omit in your
response.

>> Saving a copy of sent mail is the MUA's job, not the MTA's.
> 
> It is in most cases, yes (someone already pointed out that Exchange
> has the ability to save the Sent message without the client having to
> upload it again)

Exchange is not an SMTP server, but a groupware server with an SMTP
connector, and thus entirely different from SMTP servers like Postfix.

> but again, my point is, why does it *have* to be that way.

Because SMTP servers do delivery up to a user's mailbox, and no further.
SMTP servers do not have any knowledge about how a user may have
organized his mailbox internally (i.e. concepts like "sent mail" folders
and such), nor should they have to, as this isn't part of SMTP.

If you want a groupware solution: there are quite a few around. Postfix
(by itself), however, isn't one of them.

> 'That's the way its done now', or 'that's the way it's always been
> done' is a stupid reason (by itself) to dismiss the idea of a
> potentially new feature.

See above.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
-- 
"Abstractions save us time working, but they don't save us time learning."
--Joel Spolsky

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