On 4/28/2013 7:33 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 06:52:09PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> 
>>>> defer_unauth_destination etc.. is the default safety net for
>>>> sites that haven't set smtpd_relay_restrictions
>>>
>>> ah, i remembered correct it was set by "postfix upgrade-configuration"
>>> at the bottom of "main.cf", maybe the "safety net" should be the
>>> same as "postconf -d" which is "reject_unauth_destination"?
>>
>> What practical difference do you see between these two reject codes?
>> The client in this transaction is almost certainly not an MTA.  It's
>> most likely rat/malware, which typically either:
> 
> There is an important difference, which is why the defer variant
> is used as a safety net, and the use-case is precisely when the
> client is an MTA.

Apparently I didn't make my point clear, which is that a hard fail isn't
necessary here, and that a temp fail is preferable to cover all client
types.  I think Reindl was advocating a hard fail.  I was countering his
argument.

And again, he could have prevented this discussion entirely with a
simple, safe, effective, client restriction, that up until now I assumed
*everyone* uses.

-- 
Stan

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