Am 27.02.2014 19:28, schrieb Viktor Dukhovni:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:48:47PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote:
>> Peer Heinlein:
>>> You got it. That's what we ARE doing and that's why I'm asking for. :-)
>>
>> Well this is a very non-standard deployment. I have to spend my
>> limited cycles wisely on things that benefit the most people.
>>
>>> We have situations, where a mail MUST send using TLS. And I need a
>>> FAST and reliable DSN back to the sender if that's not possible.
>>
>> If it MUST be TLS, then why can't mail wait until the destination
>> is "repaired"?
> 
> Also TLS is a transport mechanism, but transport failure is not
> message failure.  Equating transport failure with message failure
> is semantically flawed.
> 
> Are all the destinations in question served by exactly one MX host,
> why? If not, the failure would have to be based on some global
> observation that *every* candidate MX host failed to offer TLS, or
> the certificates of *every* MX host failed to verify

they offer a mailservice with *unconditional* encryption in germany

https://mailbox.org/
http://www.heise.de/ix/meldung/Mailbox-org-Vollstaendig-verschluesselter-deutscher-E-Mail-Dienst-2120363.html

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