Den 05.01.2015 18:59, skrev li...@rhsoft.net:
> 
> Am 05.01.2015 um 18:47 schrieb Viktor Dukhovni:
>> On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 06:01:03PM +0100, DTNX Postmaster wrote:
>>
>>>> With RC4-SHA early enough for the 11-year old Microsoft Exchange
>>>> servers.
>>>
>>> Sadly, older Exchange servers (2003 at least) will favour 3DES over RC4
>>> for TLS connections, IIRC.
>>
>> This is not correct.
>>
>>> I don't have the fix we used on hand, as our oldest supported Exchange
>>> version is 2010 these days, but we had an override of some sort that
>>> required forcing 'DES-CBC3-SHA' for that specific box.
>>>
>>> You can specify that as 'DES-CBC3-SHA', or select with something like
>>> this;
>>>
>>> ==
>>> $ openssl ciphers -v 'RSA+3DES'
>>> DES-CBC3-SHA            SSLv3 Kx=RSA      Au=RSA  Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
>>
>> No, this is a bad idea, it is in fact 3DES that is broken with such
>> servers
> 
> shouldn't we start to disable RC4 as well as DES-CBC3-SHA for that
> horrible outdated crap servers and fallback to unencrypted at all
> instead continue to work around them years again?

I wouldn't mind name & shame those who are running outdated crap
servers, with automail to postmaster or something. Progress is made
faster imho that way, instead of trying to be backwards compatible with
*anything*. Do plaintext instead.

.per

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