* mj <[email protected]>:
> Hi,
> 
> Ok, so disallowing LOGIN is not a clever move :-)

Mandatory STARTTLS *and* disallowing any shared-secret mechanism (CRAM-MD5,
DIGEST-MD5, NTLM) is a clever move.

This way you protect the identity while it is transported from the client to
the server and you are able to store the passwords crypted.

p@rick




> 
> Thanks for your answers!
> 
> MJ
> 
> On 09/02/2017 08:32 AM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote:
> > * postfix <[email protected]>:
> > > On 09/01/2017 04:25 PM, mj wrote:
> > > > Just a small question: we currently use posfix with sasl authentication,
> > > > and folowing many docs, we have enabled PLAIN and LOGIN authentication.
> > > > 
> > > > However, googling leads me to believe that LOGIN is mostly used by
> > > > Outlook Express, and that most (or all?) modern clients support the
> > > > PLAIN mechanism.
> > > > 
> > > > I also noticed that most failed authentication attempts are done using
> > > > LOGIN.
> > > > 
> > > > Now, assuming that most of these failed authentications are simply
> > > > username/password guessing... how many problems would I expect, if I
> > > > simply only offer PLAIN mechanism?
> > > > 
> > > > It's hard to find info on what clients use what auth type. So, are
> > > > all/most modern clients capable of doing PLAIN? (thunderbird, outlook
> > > > 2010/2013) so could I simply disallow LOGIN?
> > 
> > Thunderbird:
> >      PLAIN, DIGEST-MD5
> > Outlook 20**:
> >      LOGIN, NTLM
> > 
> > > As far as I know, outlook does only LOGIN, even: because of outlook the
> > > LOGIN mechanism was introduced.
> > 
> > That is correct.
> > 
> > p@rick
> > 

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