> On Feb 2, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 11:46:35AM -0500, micah anderson wrote:
>> SH Development <listacco...@starionline.com> writes:
>> 
>>> I'm about at my wits end with Google.
>>> 
>>> A couple of weeks ago, we had a user account get compromised.  About 
>>> 11,000 spam emails were sent through the account over a 24 hour period 
>>> before we caught it and shut it down.
>> 
>> I know it doesn't help your current situation, but I highly suggest you
>> setup postfwd with some sending limits, so that this does not happen
>> again in the future.
>> 
> 
> Seconded.  Setting sending limits, with a process for expanding the
> limit for customers who legitimately need expansion, completely stopped
> us being added to RBLs at my former employer.  
> 
> The customers who needed more messages per hour/day got a lecture
> about keeping their passwords safe and an explanation of the financial
> penalties we would exact from them should their account get us RBLed.
> 
> For us, 100/hour 500/day was a sufficient default for 99.99% of our
> users.  We had maybe 25 clients setup with expanded limits five years
> after implementing the policy deamon.

I was hoping that the rate-limiting was enough, but I found that whatever was 
spamming through the compromised accounts was intelligent. If we let 100/hour 
through, they’d ratchet down to 50/hour…

Just a reminder you need a rate limit and a total.

Charles

> 
> We also trolled the log files to count the total number of e-mails
> sent per user each day.  We got an emailed report hourly.  We often
> identified compromised accounts before they hit the limits when the
> spammer was sneaky enough to slow send.  Submitting e-mail from three
> continents in an hour is a pretty good indicator of a compromised
> account.
> 
> PolicyD meant it was okay if we took some time for sleep or missed the
> hourly reports for a weekend.
> 
> -- 
> Scott Lambert                    KC5MLE                       Unix SysAdmin
> lamb...@lambertfam.org

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