OK - not gonna argue any of your ridiculous comments. You’re likely just trolling the mailer for lulz or some such and therefore don’t deserve my or anyone else’s time…

Good luck chief - you’re gonna need it…

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On 2 May 2023, at 21:12, Kolusion K via Postfix-users wrote:

I've been posting on this mailer for the past 2 days and I have posted my configuration file as we as my mail log which demonstrates a problem with Postix where it is using network interfaces it shouldn't be using, as per the documentation. This is the first time I have seen you here, so, perhaps you should STFU before telling me to crawl before run and RTFM.

Also, stop thinking Postfix is flawless. You are living in a fantasy land. Lots of pilots thought their autopilot software was flawless, too, only to end up being killed by it.


K



Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 at 5:51 am
From: "Antonio Leding" <t...@leding.net>
To: "Kolusion K" <kolus...@post.com>
Cc: "Kolusion K via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
Subject: Re: [pfx] Contradicting Postfix documentation

This looks a network and config issue rather than any defect in PF be
that with the code or the docs...

I would highly recommend you crawl before you try running so with that
in mind, scale back your config to just use v4 and get that working.
Also, if you really want help on this mailer, post both your main and
master config files so the community understands exactly what your
system is cfg’d to do.  Otherwise, it is doubtful folks will wanna
spend the time especially when your position is that you don’t need to
put in the same effort we all have done - i.e. seeing value in RTFM.

I can truly say that in the 13+ years I’ve been using PF, all of the
config and operational issues I’ve had were covered in the docs…

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On 2 May 2023, at 20:28, Kolusion K via Postfix-users wrote:

Disabling IPv6 probably isn't an acceptable workaround anyway. What
happens if both an IPv4 and IPv6 IP address is listed? Postfix may
still use other network interfaces not listed (IP addresses).

Changing the parameter name wouldn't be a bad idea either seeing
parameter values are actually IP addresses and not interface names, as
the parameter name suggests.

K



Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 at 5:11 am
From: "Kolusion K via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
To: postfix-users@postfix.org
Subject: [pfx] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Contradicting Postfix
documentation

Postfix needs to be patched so that the value of the inet_interfaces
parameter is obeyed regardless of whether or not IPv6 (or other IP
versions?) is enabled.

K



Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 at 4:57 am
From: "Kolusion K via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
To: "Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
Subject: [pfx] Re: Fw: Re: Re: Contradicting Postfix documentation

Its not naive, its a fact- Postfix is broken. The inet_interfaces
parameter is described in the documentation as making Postfix use
only the interfaces listed for the parameter. In reality, Postfix
ignores the parameter by using network interfaces that are not
listed.

There is nothing mentioned in the Postfix documentation under the
inet_interfaces parameter section that says the inet_interfaces
parameter is for IPv4 only and that it will not have an effect on
IPv6 interfaces. That claim is your fairy tale.


K



Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2023 at 5:57 pm
From: "Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users"
<postfix-users@postfix.org>
To: postfix-users@postfix.org
Subject: [pfx] Re: Fw: Re: Re: Contradicting Postfix documentation

On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 04:45:13PM +0200, Kolusion K via
Postfix-users wrote:

Hang on a second... my Postfix is using a network interface that
is
not the one set with the inet_interfaces parameter. So, my
experience
is true- the inet_interfaces parameter has no effect.

No, it has exactly the documented effects, perhaps different from
your
naïve expectations for your particular use case. This is not the
forum
to seek "validation", the most you can expect from this list is
technical help to configure Postfix to meet your stated
requirements.

    - The IPv4 addresses listed in inet_interfaces have no effect
on
      the choice of outbound IPv6 address when IPv6 is enabled.

    - When inet_interfaces list no IPv4 addresses other than
loopback
      addresses, or lists multiple non-loopback IPv4 addresses,
then
inet_interfaces also has no effect on the choice of outbound
IPv4
      addresses.

- To be sure that a particular IPv4 or IPv6 source address is used,
  configure an explicit "smtp_bind_address" or
"smtp_bind_address6".
- To be sure that IPv6 is not used, set "inet_protocols = ipv4".
- To be sure that IPv4 is not used, set "inet_protocols = ipv6".

- If you have just one IPv4 address suitable for both sending and
  receiving mail, set it as the only IPv4 address in
inet_interfaces.
  You then don't need an explicit "smtp_bind_address", though an
  explicit setting may be sensible in some cases.
- If you have just one IPv6 address suitable for both sending and
  receiving mail, set it as the only IPv6 address in
inet_interfaces.
  You then don't need an explicit "smtp_bind_address6", though an
  explicit setting may be sensible in some cases.
- In either case disable any protocol that is not at all suitable
for
  receiving or sending email.

--
    Viktor.
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