google & binhs maps are for ameteures. for full GIS PostGIS is ok
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> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 18:35:15 -0400
> From: zach cruise <[email protected]>
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> when would using just google maps make more sense than using something
> with postgis?
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> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT)
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> Very briefly...
>
> When you want to manage spatial data, especially large volumes,or analyze
> them, or do polar maps, or use projections to display data in a more
> correct cartographic or spatial way...
>
> Postgis plus a mapserver (mapserver/geoserver/deegree/etc) plus a web
> mapping client (Openlayers/leaflet/etc) gives you a more complex & more
> powerful suite than Google. If you need that power & complexity.
>
> Google (or Bing) gives you a rich global context map dataset to display
> your data on top of, that you need to provide for yourself otherwise.
>
> There is a place for both... if I was to employ a competent statistical
> modeller, I would not choose someone who's tool of choice was a
> spreadsheet. Similarly, a web mapping specialist or cartographer who's only
> experience was with Google... so is a simple spreadsheet approach adequate
> for your needs or not?
>
> Cheers,
>
> ? Brent Wood
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> From: zach cruise <[email protected]>
> Subject: [postgis-users] postgis v. google
> To: "PostGIS Users Discussion" <[email protected]>
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> when would using just google maps make more sense than using something
> with postgis?
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> From: Martin Feuchtwanger <[email protected]>
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>  From my point-of-view, it's a rather odd question; i see them as
> complementing one another nicely.
> I'm working on a project that involves a large spatial database, which
> i'm storing in postgis, and google earth, which i'm using as the
> display/view tool. Postgis easily outputs kml for google earth/maps.
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> Martin Feuchtwanger  [email protected]  604-254-0361
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> On 05/04/2013 3:35 PM, zach cruise wrote:
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> > when would using just google maps make more sense than using something
> > with postgis?
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> From: Martin Feuchtwanger <[email protected]>
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>  From my point-of-view, it's a rather odd question; i see them as
> complementing one another nicely.
> I'm working on a project that involves a large spatial database, which
> i'm storing in postgis, and google earth, which i'm using as the
> display/view tool. Postgis easily outputs kml for google earth/maps.
>
> Martin Feuchtwanger  [email protected]  604-254-0361
> http://members.shaw.ca/geomatics.developer
>
> On 05/04/2013 3:35 PM, zach cruise wrote:
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> > when would using just google maps make more sense than using something
> > with postgis?
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> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 04:18:59 -0400
> From: Margie Roswell <[email protected]>
> To: PostGIS Users Discussion <[email protected]>
> Subject: [postgis-users] unique id in QGIS/PostGIS
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> I've been googling up a storm, now that I've got a local postgis database
> with QGIS. But still haven't figured out how to display a newly created
> table.
>
> The query I used to create the table:
> CREATE TABLE smaller_leg_final AS
> SELECT ST_Buffer(geom,-500) AS geom, legislative_final.district
> FROM legislative_final
> WHERE area > 30;
>
> I then discovered that I needed a unique ID, and did the following:
> ALTER TABLE smaller_leg_final ADD COLUMN id serial not null;
>
> This successfully populated the ID field with unique integers.
>
> However when I go into QGIS, the Primary Key column offers no options. when
> I click into it, it just asks me to choose an SRID, which I believe I've
> already done. The table loads, but nothing displays.
>
> I honestly feel a bit like a toddler given ice skates and placed on an icy
> rink. I'm toddling my way around, falling, getting back up, and then
> looking up and asking: why did I fall?
>
> Once upon a time I was at the true cutting edge of GIS... I purchased
> MapInfo versions 1.1, and upgraded from there for many years. Moving into
> QGIS/Posgres/postGIS now, and well on the path to success, but .... not...
> quite... there.
>
> Are there any QGIS users here who can help me to display my new table?
>
> Do I need a different postgres statement? Is there a different field name
> expected? Maybe my query generated invalid shapes... But still, the geom
> field is displaying in the "Add PostGIS layers "Geometry column", but the
> Primary key column option doesn't allow me to select my 'id' field.
>
> Insight welcome.
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Lelo - Luiz Rog?rio De Pieri <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm having a problem to execute a pgsql2shp command using java.
> >
> > My OS is Ubuntu and it's frequently I use to generate shp files using
> > pgsql2shp, but now I want to do it through java.
> >
> > The follow command works fine on terminal
> > pgsql2shp -f pontos_05600202_teste -h myhost -u myuser -P mypasswd -g
> > coordinates my_database "SELECT * from points where id_uploaded_file =
> > 37995";
> >
> > Now I'm trying to execute the follow code:
> >
> > ProcessBuilder pb = new ProcessBuilder("pgsql2shp", "-f
> > pontos_05600202_teste", "-h myhost", "-u myuser", "-P mypasswd", "-g
> > coordinates", "my_database", "SELECT coordinates, date from points where
> > id_uploaded_file = 37995");
> >
> > Process proc;
> > proc = pb.start();
> > InputStream stdin = proc.getInputStream();
> > InputStreamReader isr = new InputStreamReader(stdin);
> > BufferedReader br = new BufferedReader(isr);
> >
> > String line = null;
> > System.out.println("<OUTPUT>");
> >
> > while ((line = br.readLine()) != null)
> >     System.out.println(line);
> >
> > System.out.println("</OUTPUT>");
> > int exitVal = proc.waitFor();
> > System.out.println("Process exitValue: " + exitVal);
> >
> >
> > And the result is:
> >
> > <OUTPUT>
> > Preparing table for user query... Done.
> > Initializing...  coordinates: no such attribute in table
> > __pgsql2shp14493_tmp_table
> > </OUTPUT>
> >
> > Does anybody as any idea about it?
> >
> > Thank you for all
> >
> > Best regards
> > --
> > Rog?rio De Pieri  (Lelo)
> > SCJP 5
> > Buscando melhorar a cada dia
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> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 11:03:10 +0200
> From: Paolo Corti <[email protected]>
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> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Margie Roswell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > The query I used to create the table:
> > CREATE TABLE smaller_leg_final AS
> > SELECT ST_Buffer(geom,-500) AS geom, legislative_final.district
> > FROM legislative_final
> > WHERE area > 30;
> >
> > I then discovered that I needed a unique ID, and did the following:
> > ALTER TABLE smaller_leg_final ADD COLUMN id serial not null;
> >
> > This successfully populated the ID field with unique integers.
> >
> > However when I go into QGIS, the Primary Key column offers no options.
> when
> > I click into it, it just asks me to choose an SRID, which I believe I've
> > already done. The table loads, but nothing displays.
> >
>
> Which version of PostGIS are you using?
> Could you send the DDL CREATE TABLE syntax?
>
> You can get it like this:
>
> pg_dump -t tablename --schema-only
>
> or copy and paste it from the pgAdmin SQL table pane
>
> I have the suspect, thought, that you are using PostGIS < 2.0: in that
> case you explicitely need to record the metadata in geometry_columns
> using AddGeometryColumn
>
> regards
> p
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:11:23 +0200
> From: Hugues Fran?ois <[email protected]>
> To: "PostGIS Users Discussion" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [postgis-users] How to perform st_PixelAsPolygon(rast,
>         geom) ?
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> Thank you very much Pierre ! That's exactly what I was looking for. Sorry
> I didn't find the st_worldtorastercoord functions which do exactly what I
> need (maybe it should be a good idea to add a reference in the pixel
> accessors et setter functions -in "see also" -  since theses function work
> at the pixel level).
>
> Hugues.
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] De la part de Pierre Racine
> Envoy??: vendredi 5 avril 2013 18:12
> ??: PostGIS Users Discussion
> Objet?: Re: [postgis-users] How to perform st_PixelAsPolygon(rast, geom) ?
>
> You can do:
>
> SELECT ST_PixelAsPolygon(rast, ST_WorldToRasterCoordX(rast, ST_X(geom)),
> ST_WorldToRasterCoordY(rast, ST_Y(geom))) geom FROM yourrast, yourpoints
> WHERE ST_Intersects(rast, geom)
>
> Note that PixelAsPolygon has no "s".
>
> You will get the vectorization of every pixels having a point inside. Up
> to you to deal with duplicates.
>
> Pierre
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:postgis-users-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Hugues Fran?ois
> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 6:51 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [postgis-users] How to perform st_PixelAsPolygon(rast, geom) ?
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I need to work with a dem raster at the pixel scale but there are few
> > functions to access them. Maybe I forgot something but, if we can have
> > a value crossing a point with raster using st_value, we can't access
> > the pixel geometry directly from a point.
> >
> >
> >
> > The only way I found was first to use St_PixelAsPolygons to access
> > pixel geometry (for relevant tiles) and then intersects resulting
> > geometries with original points but this method costs very much.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone have an idea to increase performances ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hugues.
>
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> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 07:28:10 -0600
> From: Richard Greenwood <[email protected]>
> To: PostGIS Users Discussion <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [postgis-users] unique id in QGIS/PostGIS
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> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Margie Roswell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I've been googling up a storm, now that I've got a local postgis database
> > with QGIS. But still haven't figured out how to display a newly created
> > table.
> >
> > The query I used to create the table:
> > CREATE TABLE smaller_leg_final AS
> > SELECT ST_Buffer(geom,-500) AS geom, legislative_final.district
> > FROM legislative_final
> > WHERE area > 30;
> >
> > I then discovered that I needed a unique ID, and did the following:
> > ALTER TABLE smaller_leg_final ADD COLUMN id serial not null;
> >
>
>
> Why don't you try making you unique column a primary key?
>
> ALTER TABLE smaller_leg_final
>   ADD CONSTRAINT smaller_leg_final_pk PRIMARY KEY(id);
>
> Rich
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> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 10:31:56 -0400
> From: Margie Roswell <[email protected]>
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> Thanks. I went ahead and created the primary key as directed. Still no
> luck. I created this mini-screencast so you can see what I'm talking about
> http://screencast.com/t/9WMkHN56e
>
> and adding on a few more seconds, here:
> http://screencast.com/t/DCjs2OXsew
>
> and a quick screenshot here, showing the data
> http://screencast.com/t/fImccBVh
>
> (sorry, I didn't get all that in one pass.)
>
> I should add that the original Maryland Legislative district is here:
>
> http://planning.maryland.gov/PDF/Redistricting/2010zip/Legislative_shape.zip
>
> The PRJ file reads as follows
>
> GEOGCS["GCS_GRS_1980",DATUM["D_GRS_1980",SPHEROID["GRS_1980",6378137,298.2572221]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0],UNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433]]
>
>
> Oddly enough, also, the legislature_final file ALSO doesn't list primary
> key, but it displays anyhow. In this case, I've selected the ones with area
> > 25, because I thought they'd be more likely to buffer successfully...
>
> Anyhow, maybe with the mini-video screencast, it'll be easier to see what
> I'm talking about.
>
> Margie
>
>
>
> Margie
>
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> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Richard Greenwood <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Margie Roswell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've been googling up a storm, now that I've got a local postgis
> database
> >> with QGIS. But still haven't figured out how to display a newly created
> >> table.
> >>
> >> The query I used to create the table:
> >> CREATE TABLE smaller_leg_final AS
> >> SELECT ST_Buffer(geom,-500) AS geom, legislative_final.district
> >> FROM legislative_final
> >> WHERE area > 30;
> >>
> >> I then discovered that I needed a unique ID, and did the following:
> >> ALTER TABLE smaller_leg_final ADD COLUMN id serial not null;
> >>
> >
> >
> > Why don't you try making you unique column a primary key?
> >
> > ALTER TABLE smaller_leg_final
> >   ADD CONSTRAINT smaller_leg_final_pk PRIMARY KEY(id);
> >
> > Rich
> >
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