All,

Nothing that far along.  Did a couple of proofs of concept so far, I’ve done a 
couple of presentations on the Visualizer approach.  We tried a couple of 
different things, x3Dom, allover’js

You can see some of them here ( some of the  pages take a while to load the 
data in the background, be patient):

https://hub.sharedgeo.org/apps/x3d/  (these will generally need a webGL enabled 
browser)

These are purely intended as a test of just how much data could easily be 
squished into the browser before if blows, so you might experience some 
failures.   Ideally the data coming into these would be segmented via a SQL 
call to PostGIS Pointcloud sources.

The last two in the list are using some point clouds cut from our recent data 
collect at 8pt per sq meter for the City (6 billion points in all), these are 
using about 300k points each for example.

Bobb



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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rémi Cura
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Old question resurfacing

I would be very interested to know any attempt to visualize 3D point cloud from 
data base !
We did the same but our solution is far from perfect.
Bob, is you rporject public/open source, have you any paper/doc  about it ?

Cheers,

Rémi-C

2013/12/11 Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Hmm,

I’m working with the Minneapolis International Airport (MSP) on a project, any 
chance that  data is open/accessible enough to play with?  This could tie 
directly into a project I’m already working on.

Thanks

Bobb



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 On Behalf Of Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:14 PM

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Bob, all:

I agree. I'll have to spend some time with pointcloud but it DOES look very 
promising.

Another application? Lidar. Pointed at the sky, not at the ground (we use 'em 
to determine cloud layers [ceiling] and sky cover at airports for aviation 
data...).

Thanks, all!
gerry

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Gerry,

Remi’s idea about using a point cloud may be spot on for your use.  It allows 
you to set a point cloud down to a revolution if need be, which seems like what 
you are looking for..  If the data becomes too massive for insertion into DB at 
real-time speeds, then you could also separate this revolution into separate 
DB’s as well, you could separate a whole number of ways, by elevation, or 
quadrant, or . . .

I’m very interested in visualization possibilities with something like this 
being available in a database.  We’re doing some similar db 3d visualization 
stuff on some rather dense point clouds.  Your data once available could use 
the same visualizer.

Bobb



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 On Behalf Of Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:41 PM
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Bob

At least preliminarily, I can post-process, so speed of db adds isn't too 
troubling. Maintaining accurate representation of the bin-volume data is, 
however, important.

Typical rotation is 1-3 RPM, and a complete volume scan takes ~11 min in clear 
air (where you best see biologicals if so inclined) or ~5 min in one of the 
storm data collection modes. These are for common WSR88D, stationary radars. 
SMARTR's and others we have here that are mobile present a whole host of other 
options/data eval and speed problems.

Current radar data are nominally considered to have a horizontal resolution of 
~250 m, ignoring distortion or keyholing due to range.Typically 16 elevations 
are scanned, once or or twice in storm mode and a few less elevations in clear 
air mode.

Now, the interesting thing that's on the horizon is Phased Array Radar. When 
that happens, more data, more resolution, and faster updates.

gerry

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Gerry,

Seems like the biggest hangup would be in adding the data to the DB fast 
enough.  How many points, per revolution, and what is the frequency of a 
revolution (stationary Radar, correct, although as I think about it, it could 
be mobile if needed, just need to add in the radar location to each record)?

Bobb



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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:52 AM
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Subject: [postgis-users] Old question resurfacing

I asked this years ago, and I think Paul was less than pleased with me (:-), 
but:

Has anyone, in the ensuing years looked at encoding radar data into a postGIS 
database? We've a little idea that might benefit one project, and getting the 
radar data into a good geospatial format would be beneficial.The data, of 
coure, would start out as radial-distance and intensity from the radar site, 
although we could preprocess it by gridding.

Thanks, Gerry
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