I guess st_transform should be applied only when using the same syntax as 
shp2pgsql : -s from_srid:to_srid.

And it should be prohibited when used with –R. I don’t think we want to go into 
reprojecting the tiles in the filesystem. The only good way to do this is 
convert them to in-db and it is not what the users is expecting. So better 
prevent it. If he really want to reproject, he can do it after registering the 
out-db tiles, creating new in-db ones with SELECT ST_Transform(). At least at 
this moment it is clearer that the band will become in-db.

Make sence?

Pierre

De : Regina Obe [mailto:[email protected]]
Envoyé : 16 avril 2017 00:06
À : 'PostGIS Users Discussion' <[email protected]>
Cc : Pierre Racine <[email protected]>; 'Bborie Park' 
<[email protected]>
Objet : RE: [postgis-users] Fwd: PostGIS Out-DB Raster Not Behaving As Expected

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

I've ticketed it - https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/3738

Pierre and Bborie,

Were you aware of this behavior?  This is the first time I'm hearing of it.
Though that would explain one complaint I heard from someone that their 
raster2pgsql outdb took 10 times longer than in-db
When for me it's always been really fast.

I would consider this a bug that –s could be used for both setting the SRID and 
also transforming data and would like the behavior changed in 2.4.
Probably too late to change for 2.3 since it's an api change, but we can put a 
warning on at least 2.3 as Tumasgiu suggested.

Thanks,
Regina
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From: postgis-users [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Tumasgiu Rossini
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:32 AM
To: PostGIS Users Discussion 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Fwd: PostGIS Out-DB Raster Not Behaving As Expected

Maybe a warning showing up when using -s and -R options together could be a 
nice thing to do ?
Or maybe implementing another option which would use st_setsrid instead of 
st_transform.

2017-04-11 14:25 GMT+02:00 Tumasgiu Rossini 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hi,
I think I found the probelm, it is the -s option which make the sql
applying a st_transfrom on the raster to reproject it into the desired CRS
before inserting it in the table, thus creating an in-db raster.

2017-04-11 12:14 GMT+02:00 Osahon Oduware 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hi Regina,

I would like to add that the SHOW command below returns "on":


SHOW postgis.enable_outdb_rasters;
which I believe indicates that the environment variable is SET to enable out-db 
raster. However, the result from your 1st query shows that the raster table 
isn't created with out-db. Any reason for this behaviour?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Osahon Oduware <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] PostGIS Out-DB Raster Not Behaving As Expected
To: PostGIS Users Discussion 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Regina Obe <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Jorge Gustavo Rocha 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Hi Regina,

I have tried the queries above. For the related raster table,

SELECT r_table_name, r_raster_column, out_db FROM raster_columns; RETURNS
"raster_table","rast","[False, False, False]"

SELECT t.rid, (md).isoutdb, (md).path
FROM nj_ned AS t, ST_BandMetaData(t.rast) AS md
limit 1; RETURNS
1,False,""

I believe from the result of the 1st query that out-db is not enabled. However, 
the environment variable POSTGIS_ENABLE_OUTDB_RASTERS is SET to 1. I have tried 
to also enable it with the following, restarted the postgres Service, and 
re-loaded the raster, but the 1st query gives the same result:

ALTER DATABASE <database_name> SET postgis.enable_outdb_rasters TO True;


Please, could you help me further on what I am not doing right to enable the 
out-db rasters.




On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Regina Obe 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You should also check the following queries

SELECT r_table_name, r_raster_column, out_db FROM raster_columns;

Out_db should be true for all your bands for the specific table and as Jorge 
mentioned, you shouldn't see any over view tables (which start with o_..{table}.
I believe QGIS internally tries to use over view tables to speed things up, so 
it's possible it's using an overview table instead of the main outdb table if 
you are zoomed out enough.

For outdb, querying the meta data of the raster will tell you the path if it's 
an outdb.  Replace nj_ned with your table name.

SELECT t.rid, (md).isoutdb, (md).path
FROM nj_ned AS t, ST_BandMetaData(t.rast) AS md
limit 1;

Hope that helps,
Regina
http://postgis.us
http://postgis.net


-----Original Message-----
From: postgis-users 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Jorge Gustavo Rocha
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 2:14 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] PostGIS Out-DB Raster Not Behaving As Expected

Hi,

According to the documentation [1], if you add the option -l (like -l
2,4,8,16 ), the overviews are created in the database, even if you use the -R 
option.

But since you did not use the -l option, I don't know how you can see the 
images.

Can you check the layer properties in QGIS? Are any pyramids available or not?

Regards,

Jorge


 s 16:52 de 10-04-2017, Osahon Oduware escreveu:
> Hi All,
>
> I created an out-db raster using the following syntax:
>
> raster2pgsql -s {srid} -c -R -I -C -F -t auto {absolute_file_path}
> public.{table} | psql -h {host} -p {port} -d {database} -U {user}
>
> The table was created successfully. I wanted to confirm that the
> actual file is being read from the location in the filesystem by
> performing the following steps:
> 1) I moved the raster file to a different location.
> 2) I opened QGIS and attempted to load the raster from PostGIS table.
>
> I was surprised that QGIS could load the file. *How is this possible
> when the actual raster data is not stored in the database table?*
>
>
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