Regina,

Some very good points.

I stopped using the term years ago given that I concentrate on applying spatial 
data and functions to solving business problems.

One problem is that the "spatial" industry is dominated by "GIS" vendors and 
practitioners: it isn't easy to find new non-GIS work.

In fact, I think this is one of the problems with FOSS4G technologies: they are 
marketed and sold as specific toolsets in opposition to the vendor products but 
on the same playground.

I have a few examples I can provide you with, just give me a bit of time to 
write them up.

As you going to FOSS4G in Melbourne this month?

regards
Simon

On Thu, 01 Nov 2018 10:17:04 +1100, Regina Obe <[email protected]> wrote:

Tom,

That's a pretty nice use case and one I've thought of coming from a 
Bioelectronics/Biomechanics educational background.

I think a lot more people would be using PostGIS if they saw it as a tool set of tools 
for visualizing and analyzing space, instead of "a toolset for GIS"
The GIS word seems to be a turn-off for a lot of people who have spatial 
problems to solve but don't think of themselves as GIS practioners.

I much prefer the term "Spatial" than GIS because it really focuses on what I think makes 
PostGIS great - "A tool for analyzing space"

Thanks,
Regina

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Subject: Re: [postgis-users] PostGIS case usages

Hi Regina,

It might not really fit the book, because it's not exactly GIS, but our PostGIS
use case is certainly an interesting one as well: As a software engineer at the
Howard Hughes Medical Institute, I work on a collaborative neuron
reconstruction and analysis software called CATMAID [1] [2] (screenshot: [3]),
which is used for neuroscience research. We use PostGIS to represent neurons
in a 3D space. They consist of 3D points that reference their parent nodes or
are the root [=soma of neuron] if they have no parent). Together with
synapses, point clouds and TIN meshes for modeling compartments in a
dataset, they model the spatial aspects of our neuroscience world. Users
create those neuron reconstructions manually in a collaborative fashion plus
segmentation programs can be used as additional data source. Using its
spatial indices, PostGIS helps us to quickly query neurons in a particular field
of view. The space of a single project contains sometimes 100s of millions of
interconnected individual points. We also do bounding box intersection
queries between neurons and compartment meshes, which then refine in the
front-end by doing more precise intersection tests.

This software is used by quite a few research labs and as far as I know they all
do their own hosting with a dedicated server and this is what we do as well.
The reason being mainly that wth larger datasets, we benefit from machines
with a lot of RAM (>256G), fast SSD/NVMe drives and many CPUs as well as
fast local data access for e.g. image data.

Thanks so much for making PostGIS work well in non-GIS contexts too---it
makes my live much easier! Looking forward to the book!

Cheers,
Tom

[1] https://www.catmaid.org
[2] https://github.com/catmaid/CATMAID
[3] https://twitter.com/tomkazimiers/status/1057657843174772737

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 01:05:52PM -0400, Regina Obe wrote:
>Hey all.  So we've been in talks with our editor about having a 3rd
>Edition of PostGIS hopefully to be released around the same time as PostGIS
3.0.
>
>I think they are more or less sold on the idea except they did ask
>about current market share and usage.
>
>Part of the reason for that is our previous editions focused a lot on
>"How do I use this function or do this weird sounding thing that only
>GIS people can make sense of"  instead of "How do I do this real world
thing"
>
>So one of the thoughts was having our table of contents be more like
>"How do I do this with PostGIS" in somewhat laymen terms that most
>people can relate to - like Political Districting, Real Estate analysis
>(walk scores, elevation measurements to determine viablility of
>building on a plot of
>land)
> without scaring people off with "real world things" they can't relate
>to or in overly techy terms.
>
>Also since the 2nd Edition (which was in 2015 super ancient now since
>the New shiny version at the time was 2.1 and 2.1 is not even supported
>anymore).
>Other major thing changed is a lot of people are deploying PostGIS on
>cloud offerings like Amazon RDS, Microsoft Azure, and Google PostgreSQL
>for Cloud so we plan to cover a bit about some things relevant in those
>that may not be relevant when deploying on your own server.
>
>That said, if people can respond with what things they are currently
>using PostGIS for and also what hosting they are using for PostGIS,
>that would be helpful for us to get a better idea of focus points.
>
>It'd be great if you posted on the list, but if you are shy or need
>your usage anonymized, you can write directly to me.
>
>Thanks,
>Regina
>
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