Lucky me! Thanks for the confirmation.  Emily

On 2022-02-11 2:19 p.m., Paul Ramsey wrote:
This issue has been confirmed on both GEOS and JTS. You have magic geometry 
that breaks the consistency between prepared and standard results.

https://github.com/libgeos/geos/pull/566

P.

On Feb 10, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Emily Gouge <ego...@refractions.net> wrote:

Here you go.  Thanks!


SELECT ST_AsHEXEWKB (geometry) FROM test.eflowpath WHERE id = 
'889105be-5782-43f1-b50c-5a5825c83875'

01020000200912000007000000642F25DC75A24CC0E4DE5740FCB34840A7CEFE9B72A24CC09DA85B2CFBB34840B5519D0E64A24CC091FAA188FBB34840FA449E245DA24CC054C2137AFDB34840F4ACFFCE51A24CC09FEB562A03B448405328C1D144A24CC09A3DD00A0CB44840404C10C03CA24CC0EA07FE6910B44840

SELECT ST_AsHEXEWKB (geometry) FROM test.eflowpath WHERE id = 
'e5703673-a995-472e-b4b4-0280143eba0c'

0102000020091200000E00000004BE47A23CA24CC098A1F14410B448409871AEBC3FA24CC078341F2114B448400858AB764DA24CC09D0546031DB448406BFD3E2D50A24CC0BEDDEDD522B4484004824AA654A24CC02DC9A60128B44840EE377FB850A24CC0FA18BD642DB44840CCAF8B474EA24CC02CCCE78134B44840D7158E7B4EA24CC01D7C17A53AB44840ACFA01B452A24CC02688BA0F40B44840DB508C8752A24CC006CDF80846B44840A1F31ABB44A24CC0C891730756B44840009AF7EE45A24CC06B7649415CB448408C2ECAC749A24CC0CE57248161B44840A74302A150A24CC07DD00E1368B44840

On 2022-02-10 5:57 p.m., Paul Ramsey wrote:
On Feb 10, 2022, at 4:55 PM, Emily Gouge <ego...@refractions.net> wrote:

I have a linear dataset on which I was building a query to find edges that are 
“very close” but don’t touch. While working on this query I found some 
unexpected results with the st_intersects and st_disjoint functions. As 
outlined below, the query returned true for both st_instersects and st_disjoint 
for a few geometries comparisons, but ONLY when a where clause was used to 
filter the geometries spatially. When unique identifiers were used to filter 
geometries only st_disjoint returns true.

Versions:
Except where noted otherwise the results below reference testing on these 
versions:
POSTGIS="3.2.0 3.2.0" [EXTENSION] PGSQL="140" GEOS="3.10.1-CAPI-1.16.0" PROJ="7.2.1" LIBXML="2.9.9" 
LIBJSON="0.12" LIBPROTOBUF="1.2.1" WAGYU="0.5.0 (Internal)"
PostgreSQL 14.1, compiled by Visual C++ build 1914, 64-bit

When I run this query:
select a.id, b.id,
st_intersects(a.geometry, b.geometry),
st_intersects(b.geometry, a.geometry),
st_disjoint(a.geometry, b.geometry),
st_disjoint(b.geometry, a.geometry)
from test.eflowpath a, test.eflowpath b
where a.id != b.id
and st_dwithin(a.geometry, b.geometry, 0.00001)
and st_disjoint(a.geometry, b.geometry);

PostGIS 3.2: 50 rows were returned, but there are three rows that return true 
for both st_disjoint and st_intersects. Given the query this in itself is a bit 
odd as you'd expect reciprocal results for the pairs of the geometry (so at 
least 4 rows).
-------
889105be-5782-43f1-b50c-5a5825c83875
e5703673-a995-472e-b4b4-0280143eba0c
true
true
true
true
-------
0d05aabb-9ff3-4d8f-b6c7-b2b44b0868c8
3a09b2af-5932-4e36-9e3e-d8109e5463fa
true
true
true
true
-------
3a09b2af-5932-4e36-9e3e-d8109e5463fa
0d05aabb-9ff3-4d8f-b6c7-b2b44b0868c8
true
true
true
true
-------
...

Note: In PostGIS 3.1.2 50 rows were returned by only two rows returned true for 
both disjoint and intersects.

HOWEVER,
When I compare one pair of those edges specifically using the ids they are only 
disjoint (which is the result I would expect to see)

select a.id, b.id,
st_intersects(a.geometry, b.geometry),
st_intersects(b.geometry, a.geometry),
st_disjoint(a.geometry, b.geometry),
st_disjoint(b.geometry, a.geometry)
from test.eflowpath a, test.eflowpath b
where b.id = '889105be-5782-43f1-b50c-5a5825c83875' and a.id = 
'e5703673-a995-472e-b4b4-0280143eba0c'

Results:
-------
e5703673-a995-472e-b4b4-0280143eba0c
889105be-5782-43f1-b50c-5a5825c83875
false
false
true
true
-------

I thought perhaps this had something to do with the indexes so I removed all 
geometry indexes from the table and re-ran the initial query. In postgis 3.2 
this returned the same results as the indexed query.
Note: In PostGIS 3.1.2 this also returned three rows with intersects and 
disjoint true. As noted above with indexes in 3.1.2 only 2 rows were returned 
where intersects and disjoint were true.

Similar results occurred if st_dwithin from the where statement was increased 
to 0.01.

Test Data: When I made a table with only the edges in question all queries 
returned expected results: st_intersects is false and st_disjoint is true. As a 
result providing a small test case for this issue doesn’t seem possible. But I 
am happy to provide all the data - there are 27,444 rows.

While this isn’t a problem for me, I find it unexpected that the results from 
st_intersects and st_disjoint of two geometries would be different based on the 
where clause in the query (and the data in the table).

Thoughts?
The fact that a single test case returns one result, but results in a larger 
set returns another says to me that likely the issue in different code lines 
because of different cache behaviour. When you do the single test case you get 
a brute force intersects. When you do several in a batch, you get prepared 
geometry (at least, for the cases that happen after caching).
If you can provide the HEXWKB of the two geometries that showed disagreement 
(where b.id = '889105be-5782-43f1-b50c-5a5825c83875' and a.id = 
'e5703673-a995-472e-b4b4-0280143eba0c') we can set up a test case in GEOS that 
compares the normal and prepared geometry calls and see if that's the problem.
P.

Thanks,
Emily
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