From the man page:
       Alive value
              Specify  how  often  Pound  will check for resurected back-end 
hosts (default: 30 seconds). In general, it is a good idea to set this as low 
as possible - it will find resurected
              hosts faster. However, if you set it too low it will consume 
resources - so beware.


Alive only determines how often pound checks to see if the host is alive 
*after* it’s already been marked dead.  HAPort would be for more ongoing checks.

I use what you describe in your PS. (http-based URL checks w/ Nagios in my 
environment)
Joe


From: van Melis Jean-Pierre [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: AW: [Pound Mailing List] poundctl doesn't detect a dead backend until 
that backend is needed


Okay, fair enough...

Just wanted to make sure it wasn't something that was supposed to work and was 
now broken.

In pound.cfg the "## check backend every X secs: Alive           30" somewhat 
implies the backends are checked every 30 seconds...

Cheers,

JP

PS      To get the monitoring I was after I could combine it of course with a 
httping-check to the URL's I think are vital.




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Afzender: Joe Gooch <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Verstuurd: Maandag 17 Juni 2013 23:43
Aan: '[email protected]' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Onderwerp: RE: [Pound Mailing List] poundctl doesn't detect a dead backend 
until that backend is needed


Poundctl doesn’t detect anything, poundctl just shows what Pound has detected, 
and pound only discovers dead backends when it makes a request, or if you are 
using HAPort functions (with an appropriate helper script) in the pound config.



Joe


From: van Melis Jean-Pierre [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 4:25 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Pound Mailing List] poundctl doesn't detect a dead backend until that 
backend is needed


Hi All,

I'm monitoring a lot of stuff with Zabbix and recently I thought of monitoring 
my backends of pound.
One can configure Zabbix to call programs on the computer which is running the 
agent, so I'm calling "poundctl" to count the amount of backends and also the 
ones that are dead

/etc/zabbix/zabbix_agentd.conf now contains these lines

UserParameter=pound.backends.active, sudo poundctl -c 
/var/run/pound/poundctl.socket 2>/dev/null | grep -ci 'Backend .* active'
UserParameter=pound.backends.alive, sudo poundctl -c 
/var/run/pound/poundctl.socket 2>/dev/null | grep -ci 'Backend .* active .* 
alive'
UserParameter=pound.backends.dead, sudo poundctl -c 
/var/run/pound/poundctl.socket 2>/dev/null | grep -ci 'Backend .* active .* 
DEAD'
UserParameter=pound.services, sudo poundctl -c /var/run/pound/poundctl.socket 
2>/dev/null | grep -ci 'Service .* active'
UserParameter=pound.listeners, sudo poundctl -c /var/run/pound/poundctl.socket 
2>/dev/null | grep -ci ' Listener '

All the results in my dashboard corresponds with the output of poundctl

I noticed that poundctl doesn't detect a dead backend until pound has to 
actually handle that backend.
Do I need some additional directives in my config to achieve the result I'm 
after or is it not possible?
Maybe I need to do something else to detect a backend that's down?

The command that I expected to use is:

          sudo poundctl -c /var/run/pound/poundctl.socket 2>/dev/null | grep 
-ci 'Backend .* active .* DEAD'



This is the header of my config:

cat /etc/pound/pound.cfg

######################################################################

## global options:

User            "www-data"
Group           "www-data"
#RootJail       "/chroot/pound"

## Logging: (goes to syslog by default)
##      0       no logging
##      1       normal
##      2       extended
##      3       Apache-style (common log format)

LogLevel        3

## check backend every X secs:
Alive           30

## use hardware-accelleration card supported by openssl(1):
#SSLEngine      "<hw>"

# poundctl control socket
Control "/var/run/pound/poundctl.socket"

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