I totally agree with Felix!

2013/8/15 Felix Zachlod <[email protected]>

> > > does- but this has drawbacks too as I mentioned....
> > Exactly.... That's the job of a firewall Can you explain these
> "drawbacks" of
> > using the firewall to do this....?
> > From a performance/security viewpoint it's a very bad idea to let this
> get
> > handled at application level. On Linux one has netfilter which does its
> job and
> > does it good and is properly tested and can be enhanced using extra
> > modules.
>
> Yes of course. The firewall does not know anything about the upper layer
> protocols and cannot filter based on a decision e.g. which Path is going
> tob e accessed or which virtual host. Which means we have to create
> different access locations for different user groups- this leads to a waste
> of IP adresses and a complication of the whole configuration. Of course I
> know that a firewall rule matching is way faster than a check on the
> application level but it can do less. E.g. you could also decide by IP
> range if a client is forced to use ssl or is redirected to another service
> or is forced to a backend which requires authentication and so on very
> easyly within an application level gateway. You are also able to show
> decent information tot he user why his/her access is not being granted
> right now. Performance of this checking is really no problem for us. We run
> a clustered pound setup with two virtual machines with each two virtual
> cpus. These are far away form being fully utilized let me say they could at
> least handle fifty times more users right now although they are doing ssl
> offloading and load balancing for around 10 portals with hundreds of users
> and although we already have a lots of rules with large regex sets within
> our configs.
>
> I don't see the point why a application level gateway like pound should
> NOT feature such ip based filtering rule. You are still able to decide
> yourself if you want to use it and i fit meets your requirements or not- if
> you need the additional performance- decide to do it with your firewall.
>
> Regards, Felix
>
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