Jon Herrell wrote

"- I have a bar with position set to "Taskbar (no start)".  On that
bar, I have a "Start" button defined with "*Menu StartMenu" as the 
action.  When I click this, the start menu pops up in place 
momentarily, then the menu moves slightly down and right to match my 
cursor position.  Is there any way to make the start menu stay in 
its original position?"

The trouble with "*Menu StartMenu" is that it has no space for
positioning keywords.

- Solution 1 -

"Menu Show CmdList" accepts keywords such as:
HotButton, offset x y, Center under mouse, verButton, etc.
Another useful alternative is "Menu ShowAtButton CmdList".

With either of those two, the menu will appear in a certain
position and stay there.

You need to make a Command List which contains your Start Menu embedded.

So, instead of "*Menu StartMenu" your Start button could have the
command: *Menu Show MyStartMenu

and create a command list with three commands:
Command: *Menu
Action: Folder
folders: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
keywords: folderstart noicons embed button Maxtext 64

Command: *Format
Action: separator

Command: *Menu
Action: Folder
folders: C:\Documents and Settings\Jon\Start Menu
keywords: folderstart noicons embed button Maxtext 64

- Solution 2 -
(This one doesn't need a command list)
"Menu Folder" also accepts positioning keywords

Your "Start" button could have this command:
Command: *Menu
Action: Folder
folders: AllStart Menu,Start Menu
keywords: vbutton [etc]
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Jon Herrell wrote:

"- On that same bar I have a couple of buttons with "*Format
NewColumn" as the left action.  They are meant as spacers only, but 
when I click on the space, it gives a message with "Invalid command 
*format NewColumn" in it.  Is there another way to do a spacer?  Is 
there a way to make it not respond to clicks?"

*Format NewColumn is not valid with bars, only for Menus.
Normal horizontal bars don't have columns, they have rows.
A Vertical bar is a column, but only one column.

Alternatives:
- For a very thin separator, use:
*Format BarVerticalLine

- For a separator you can define any width for:
You can make a blank separator as an empty item. It will have no
response to clicks if you leave all the Command fields blank.
If you like, you can leave the name blank or call it "|" or "|||".
Maybe uncheck "own background" on that item so it takes the
background color of the bar. Check "Disable/No 3D".

- A sizeable separator which you can use as a drag handle:
Make a new button with the command: *Format Drag.
Name it |||

Alan Martin



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