--- "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One can start up programs by placing a value in the key 
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run with a SZ (string) 
> data type.  The name of the value doesn't matter, it's just for 
> documentation.  The value of the value should be the complete command 
> line of the program you want to run, i.e. 
> 
> c:\myfiles\myprog.exe -args here
> 
> Yes, the things in the Run key get run (potentially) before the user 
> is logged in.  Notice the potentially; more details below.  Things in 
> the Startup group get run after the user has logged in.  As near as I 
> can tell, it happens when Explorer is started for that user (those 
> not using Explorer for a shell, please let me know your thoughts on 
> this one).  Since things in the Startup group get run essentially 
> after a user is done logging in, they have access to everything that 
> a user would have, most speciffically, they have a GDI and a mouse 
> and a keyboard and other potentially useful things.  

I'm afraid you're wrong here.
Both the Run keys in "HKLM/HKCU" and the startup folder are
controlled by the Explorer Shell. No Explorer Shell, no
start of the proggies in these Keys/Folder.
You may try without the explorer shell.
Or, you can confirm the dependencies using ProcExp.exe
or TaskInfo.exe or ...

Sean





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