>Subject: More on @home.com situation
>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:21:25 -0400
>From: Dan Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Message-Id: 
><20010815012133.OPMK22605.femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[192.168.10.211]>
>
>I just put subscribers back on a half-dozen different lists -- all @home
>users. This is getting old fast.
>
>I'm also changing the way the list server handles bounces. The way it has
>been set, when it is unable to deliver a message due to a full mailbox or
>downed server, it temporarily unsubscribes an account for 12 hours, then
>tries again. It then sends an email to the subscriber asking you to reset
>the bounce counter.
>
>If you don't reset the bounce counter, after 20 bounces the server will
>unsubscribe an address permanently. That's at least 10 days worth of
>bounces.
>
>On the other hand, if it attempts to deliver a message and the receiving
>mail server says "no such recipient" or generates some other type of
>fatal error, the list server takes their word for it that there is no
>such address and unsubscribes it from the list.
>
>That's a logical way to proceed, but @home is apparently sending fatal
>errors back to the list server, which is why it has been unsubscribing so
>many @home users. (The odd thing is, none of this seems to be happening
>to digest subscribers -- go figure!)
>
>I'm changing the list server so that it will no longer assume that a
>fatal error message really means what it says. Instead, a fatal error
>will be the equivalent of three regular bounces, so it will take 20
>regular bounces, 7 fatal errors, or some combination thereof before the
>list server removes subscriptions.
>
>It shouldn't have to be this way, but as long at the @home.com mail
>server is sending out fatal errors when the errors aren't fatal, we'll do
>what we can to compensate. (For the record, I still recommend @home users
>set up at least one alternative email address on a free server and use
>that instead of their regular @home mailbox for the lists. In all the
>years I've been running lists, nobody matches @home's level of mail
>server problems. Nobody.)
>
>Dan the listmom

Dan,

You could teach the FunnelWeb/Quest folks a few things... they just 
went with Arrow (an NT list server) and have completely botched 
things.  This, from a web analysis company!

Too bad you can't let the @home users know who the real problem is: 
complain to @home, folks -- or cancel your service.  That message 
WILL get through.

paul vail
after hours
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