Paypal and its parent eBay upgrade their software (the new eBay 2.0) on or
about June 5, 2004. They no longer fully support Mac OS 9 browsers. Their
new eBay 2.0 is designed to work with Windows computers only. They wont
admit this, but that is what has happened.

Here is what I have found out that does not work with Paypal.

iCab, cannot change funding source, it gives you a new page asking to add a
new bank account. Unable to complete payments because of this. Cannot send
a trouble report by their web based system, buttons don't work when you try
to send the report. Prior to this upgrade, iCab worked in all functions.
iCab version 2.9.7 & 2.9.8

IE, pages don't load, buttons don't work, this varies from day to day as
Paypal changes the coding on each page. Unable to complete payments because
of this. Prior to this upgrade, IE works in all functions. IE version 5.1.7

Opera, will work but I don't like it. Opera v6.0.3

Netscape, have not tried it, but was advised by Paypal support that it has
problems also. Netscape v7.02

In iCab, eBay will lock up computer with large amounts of disk activity
and expand ram usage ( from 3-4mb to 40+ mb) when you have more that 3 tabs
open. This experience was with a PB1400/G3/466 upgrade and OS 8.6 & 9.1 and
an iMac/rev a, with OS8.6 and 256mb ram (with iMac its about 5 tabs open
before I get problems). With more than three tabs open, it can take up to 5
minutes of disk activity to open or close a tab.

When I created filters to cut down on some of the advertisements, ebay
started downloading 5k and 10k PDF files which were  the ads I was trying
to block. I guess this is what push advertising is. Push the adds to the
viewer no mater what.  I deleted my filters and deselected the PDF viewer
in iCab to stop this. No other web site I have been to has ever done this.
Prior to eBay v2.0 upgrade this was not a problem.

Its important to note that of all the browsers for the Mac and OS9 or
below, only iCab is still being upgraded. A good reason to support
shareware.

There are thousands if not millions of Mac users with G3 and G4 machines
running various flavors of OS 9 or below. These users do not want to
upgrade to OSX, some cannot upgrade, but their Mac's are fully capable of
surfing the web. There is no reason not to support these users.

This is not a problem where your machine is underpowered, this is a coding
problem. They are using HTML to preform functions as though it was an
application.

Please call Paypal customer service line and let them know you want them to
support Mac's and OS 9.

PayPal US toll-free at: 1-888-221-1161 or please call 1-402-935-2107.

Avrage hold time 30 minutes.

Ken Vann


>
>Hello, all, I'm hoping your joint expertise can puzzle this one out.
>
>Our 3400's have always been hideously slow - to the point of choking
>- on some websites such as ebay. In particular, https seems to kill
>things.
>
>In the end I found that using iCab &  turning off JS made ebay bearable.
>
>But now, all of a sudden, I can't pay for anything with PayPal. I'm
>not aware of any changes that I've made , but its been a few months
>since I last tried. Any one else got this problem or is it just me?
>
>What happens is that it fails at the last 'review and confirm' screen
>- I click pay and it returns me to the same screen , or back to the
>start of the payment process in Ebay. Doesn't make any difference
>whether I start from ebay or paypal to do this. Looks like a JS
>problem? Except that its still no good even with JS on.
>
>Now I'm not sure if its either a problem with my particular machine,
>or all old macs/browsers. I have tried IE 5 and Communcator 4.7 with
>the same effect.
>
>Any ideas anyone?



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