Robert wrote:
>Paul, this is a civil and for the most part, friendly group, helping
>each other. Please refrain from New Yawk City ,"Defamation Expletives".
>We express our selves and discuss our differences of opinion in a more
>friendly manner in Texas ... Then we shoot the worthless Son of a
>!@#$%$.
>
>My company bought me an LC back then ... My self purchased and much
>maligned IIvx was a much better and more useful device, IMNSHO. RHB
First of all...keep your hands where I can see 'em Robert...
Yep...the 2Vx was better than the LC (that much was easy)
....but you want to match the 2Vx up against the 2Ci, three years it's senior
(full specs at bottom of message)
aside from being harder to steal (weighed twice as much as the 2Ci), the only
machine less desireable than the 2Vx was the 2Vi (hobbled on both sets
of legs @ 16 mHz CPU. and shipped up here to Canada in exchange for all the
aerospace
engineers we sent down there)
what 'advances' were made in that three year period?
one step forward...
1. 2x tray loading CDROM ( $600 optional 'extra')
2. on board vram 512k v mobo dram 64-340k
two steps back...
1. 4 ram slots v 8 on 2Ci
2. slower bus (16mHz v 25mHz on 2Ci)
3.wretched case design ('don't try this at home' ram install)
4.four month lead on introduction of '040 Macs
Little wonder that many people grew disenchanted with the offerings from Apple.
'Apple is rotten to the core' was the expression coined at the time.
The fire was rekindled during the clone years by the 'Texas tornadoes' in
Round Rock
who, from April 1995 to December 1997, stunned the Mac world by advancing
from a PPC 601 @ 80 mHz to the PTP G3 from a standing start!
...(excuse me while I clean the brown stuff off my nose)
Hell, here we are 3 1/2 years later STILL figguring out ways to keep the
PCC's up to speed with MacOS advances, unsupported or not!!
Cheers...Michael
Mac 2Vx
Introduction Date: October 19, 1992
Processor Type: 68030@32mHz
System Bus Speed:16 MHz
Level 1 Cache: 0.5k
Level 2 Cache: 32k
RAM Type:80 ns 30-pin SIMM
Standard RAM:4 MB Maximum RAM:68 MB
Motherboard RAM: 4 MB
RAM Slots:4 (group of 4)
Exp. Slots: 3 NuBus, PDS
Avg. Weight:25 lbs.
Original Price:$2950, $3550 US
Introduction Date:
September 20, 1989
Discontinued Date:February 10, 1993
Processor Type: 68030
Processor Speed: 25 MHz
System Bus Speed: 25 MHz
Level 1 Cache: 0.5k
Level 2 Cache:32k 2.
RAM Type:80 ns 30-pin SIMM 3.
Standard RAM: 1 MB, 4 MB Maximum RAM: 128 MB
Motherboard RAM: None
RAM Slots:8 (groups of 4)
Exp. Slots: 3 NuBus, Cache PDS
Avg. Weight: 13.6 lbs.
Original Price: $8800 US
original threads
>Paul Nelson wrote:
>>
>> At 7:20 PM -0800 8/20/01, Michael S. Macdonald wrote:
>> >(came out
>> >of an LC...a machine that sent potential Mac users over to the dark side..
>> >...how could they have put that machine on the marketplace when they had
>> >the expertise to build the LC3 at the time???)
>>
>> You have defamed the machine which convinced me that the idiots who
>> kept telling me to switch to the dark side were wrong! Read Guru for a
>> cure for this ignorant rant. There was NO overlap between the production
>> times for the LC and either the LCII or the LCIII.
>> It was still a hell of a lot better machine than the mid 90's
>> peecees. After a 6 year hiatus from a project using a Plus and then an SE
>> 4/40 to do computer animation with BASIC, I went from a 386, upgraded to
>> 486, to an LC, and I really appreciated the difference!
>> If you don't know the difference between an LC and the peecee, go
>> back to a 486 and compare.
>> Paul
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