Drew wrote:

>I just pulled the 1MB cache and, lo-and-behold, I get video!  Of
>course, the machine feels pretty sluggish now...  Do you recommend
>keeping the cache out or can I replace it in the future?

Put the cache back in any time you want to look at a gray screen...8>)
....I'm afraid it's toast...

Your next conundrum is whether to try and track down a 1MB PCP cache dimm,
either on eBay
or
http://www.galaxyhp.com/memory_cache.html for $69

or, alternatively...the lowend G3's are now running just over $125 or so
eg
http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm?ID=2907&Item=STIPPCG3-400-512

shows a G3/400 w 512mhz cache for $169
and they pop up on ebay quite often around $100 plus

>Any idea why the cache causes problems and how it can be avoided in
>the future?  Or is the cache problem really caused by some other
>problem and it's just a symptom?...

The cache module stores recent data from the cpu for fast retrieval. It
seems that
one of the things that is stores there is monitor information. Hence, if
the Cache dimm
screws it acts as a gate between the CPU and other components rather than
an expressway.

>I still have to figure out why it got messed up in the first place,
>but at least now I'm getting video and it's booting...

Cache and other memory modules are highly susceptible to damage from static
electricity...
could have been damaged quite a while back and decided that now was the
time to quit.
not worth worrying about.
just consider that you can now buy a G3 upgrade for little more than what
it used to cost for the cache alone, and it's far faster than a CPU and
inline cache to boot.

Cheers...Michael






>>>I haven't tried removing the cache DIMM yet, but I'll try that next.
>>
>> Recently on this list I mentioned that potential fix for a PCP that
>was
>> operating erratically and it worked.
>> It solved the problem on my own PowerCenter with a gray monitor at
>startup
>> a long while back.
>>
>> Since then, I have recommended removal of the cache dimm many times
>as a
>> 1st step in troubleshooting problems such as you have described.
>> If it works for you, simply post a notice on the list here entitled
>>
>> "MICHAEL....YOU'RE A GENIUS!!!"
>>
>> .....which I can use reopen in future when some advice I give
>fails....
>>
>> Cheers...Michael




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