on 7/1/02 12:51 PM, Steve Luke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
> I've just purchased a PowerTowerPro 250 running OS 7.6.1. I'm not
> sure if its got the original processor in healthy condition because
> the OS system diagnostic reports it running at about 120 mhz, and I
> thought it should be higher.

That doesn't sound good. To double-check, go to the Apple Menu
(top-left-hand corner, if you're new to Macs) and pull down to Apple System
Profiler. Select the System Profile tab, then go to Hardware Overview. It
will verify the machine speed. As you will see below, a good processor
upgrade is available for about $120, so don't sweat the outcome too much.
Also, you may be able to hunt down a 604(e) daughterboard on eBay; they turn
up regularly and sell for a reasonable price (something like $20, maybe
less).

> I have tried upgrading the OS to 8.5
> using a standard Mac CD, but ran into harddrive driver error messages
> and backed of. I'm worried about the availability of specialised
> software if this machine needs any and I delete whats already there.
> 
> Does anyone have any advice on such an OS upgrade?

This is probably the most common question posted here by folks new to Power
Computing.

A short answer: OS 7.6.1 was really a pretty decent system. You might not
need or want to change at all, unless you have software applications that
require OS 8 or later.

If you do change OS, I would recommend ultimately getting to OS 8.6 (I
believe a free upgrade is available at Apple.com to download and go from 8.5
or 8.5.1 to 8.6) or higher. I've also been pleased with 9.1. But 8.5 seemed
pretty problematic.

Also: I had success using the Drive Setup utility that came with OS 9.x on
Seagate (non-Apple branded) hard drives. I believe that version of Drive
Setup was more third-party-drive friendly.

As to your observation: Power Computing machines did not use Apple branded
CD-ROM drives and hard drives (which had some particular kind of ROM unique
to Macs). That meant that generally speaking, the Mac CD and hard drive
drivers don't work with the third-party (non-Apple-branded) drives. Instead,
Power Computing shipped its boxes with FWB CD-ROM Toolkit and Hard Drive
toolkit drivers.

Locate those drivers on your machine (I believe both are Extensions in the
System Folder; they might also have Control Panels in the System Folder, I
forget since I'm not presently using either one). There may also be folders
on the hard drive containing Read Me files and other stuff that is
marginally useful. Do an exhaustive search, copy all the FWB Toolkit
Extensions and Control Panels (if they exist) and other stuff onto a floppy
or whatever for future use.

Better yet, if you have the original Power Computing system CD, the FWB
CD-ROM and Hard Drive toolkit installers will be on there.

Depending on which OS 8.5 CD you have, it may or may not be bootable from
the PowerTowerPro (seems to me that certain system CDs that shipped with
iMac and G3 machines will not boot up a Power Computing machine). If yours
is bootable, do so and do a system Clean Install (don't mess with updating
the hard drive drivers with Apple's Drive Setup, since as you found, that
won't work). I believe a Clean Install will make a copy of the old System
Folder (further protecting those FWB drivers and perhaps other Extensions
you will need); to be doubly sure, you could just make a duplicate of the
existing 7.6.1 System Folder. Better safe than sorry.

If that 8.5 CD won't boot the machine, you might trying copying that entire
CD to the hard drive, then get your hands on a bootable system CD (like a
Norton Utility CD -- available for $5 from Other World Computing right now
(see below). Booting from a CD, the installer on the CD you copied onto your
hard drive will probably work alright.

Once you have the 8.5 system installed, upgrade to 8.5.1/8.6. Locate the FWB
Extensions and Control Panels, drag-and-drop them onto the new System Folder
and restart from the hard drive. You _should_ be good to go at that point.

By all means, keep a safe copy of those FWB drivers for future use.
 
> And, regarding the clock speed, are there any recommendations for
> cost effective processor upgrades? I understand a daughterboard
> system is standard on these machines?

You are correct; the processor resides on a daughterboard that plugs onto
the motherboard.

A company called Other World Computing has been advertising to its email
subscribers a special on a PowerLogix G3 upgrade:

PowerLogix G3/400MHz PCI Upgrade w/1024K 2:1, $119.00 for Readers!
http://eshop.macsales.com/specials/MailList.cfm

I bought the same card (for about $150) and have been pleased with it.

Also, they have 128 MB 5V FPM DIMMs for $24 each, if you want RAM upgrade.
Power Computing recommended "interleaving" RAM, meaning adding DIMMs in
matched pairs.

(No, I don't work for Other World Computing; they just specialize in a lot
of upgrade items and are Power Computing friendly and knowledgeable. They
also have some pretty compelling prices on certain items.)

Good luck,

--Chuck


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