> From: Jeff Tupholme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Can't get beyond OF
> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:47:55 +0100

On 3/31/05 12:32, "Jeff Tupholme" wrote:

> I'm new to the list but have had years of trouble-free service from my
> PowerCenter Pro 210. I've come up with a problem that I've never seen
> before and I thought maybe someone could shed some light on it -
> soluble or not!
> 
> The problem became apparent when I took the machine down after it had
> been switched on and running perfectly for about two years (as a
> server). I'd had a G3 upgrade in it that I wanted to try in another
> machine (it works), and when I put it all back together again it
> wouldn't boot from the Adaptec SCSI card that it came with.
> 
> Not a problem, I thought, I'd just boot from something else and reset
> the startup disk. However, I've never been able to get it to boot
> again, although the startup chime is good. Furthermore, it will let me
> get into Open Firmware (via the serial port), but which I can't then
> boot using any kind of media - HD, CD, floppy. There can't be very much
> wrong!
> 
> I don't understand how I can get this far but not all the way. Could it
> be that my ROMs are blown or something like that? Does anyone know what
> the machine needs to boot fully that isn't necessary for OF, and hence
> what could be broken?
> 
> I've tried all the usual things - removing extraneous peripherals and
> RAM, battery, CUDA, PRAM and so on. It just seems to me that during
> those two years something may have duffed out that is needed for the
> boot process to run, but I don't know what to try. ROM replacement?
> Mobo from eBay? I don't want to abandon the machine as it so nearly
> seems to work!
> 
> Thanks, 
> Jeff

> P.S., I previously posted to the PCI PowerMacs list but no-one there
> was able to offer anything that I hadn't already tried. Sorry if you've
> read the message before!


Jeff - Did you re-seat the PCI Riser card? I've often found it to be the
source of "strange" problems.

I had one PCP/210 that I couldn't install all four screws that held the
"floor" of the case in place, because it put the case in enough of a bind
(out of square) that the riser card wouldn't seat (make correct contact in
it's slot) and it acted similarly to yours. If I left out one screw (the
*right* one), all was fine. How long do you think it took me to figure that
one out?

Re-seating the CPU - ROM - RAM - PCI cards - etc then hittin' the 'Cuda
would all be a good idea, too. All the very conscious of upsetting the
Riser.

Re: Open Firmware - I've never heard OF spoken of in regards to any Mac
previous to what's commonly referred to as OF Macs. (orig iMac, B&W-G3, etc
and newer) - but I'm no geek, so I could be way off base. Please enlighten
me.

Hope you find help here.

J.



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