powermail-discuss Digest #2581 - Thursday, March 15, 2007
New Mac Finally
by "cheshirekat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Displaying actual email address not name
by "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "Richard Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "cheshirekat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "cheshirekat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "Bruce Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "computer artwork by subhash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re(2): New Mac Finally
by "computer artwork by subhash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "Anthony Sanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: New Mac Finally
by "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: New Mac Finally
From: "cheshirekat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:40:51 -0600
I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that I am
using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on my
PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up
with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new
Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the
new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user
environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups.
So many preparations to make.
--
"I never before knew the full value of trees. Under them I breakfast,
dine, write, read and receive my company."
- Thomas Jefferson
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Subject: Re: Displaying actual email address not name
From: "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:57:27 -0700
In case anyone at CTM is listening [which they mostly are] I'd prefer the
complete actual mailing address to appear in the list rather than the
short name. If there had to be a choice between one and the other.
Shark Attack on 3/14/07 said
>Thanks Barbara;
>
>interesting workaround but not quite industrial-strength enough for me;
>I need to see the 'real' address of *every message* in my database --
>or at least all those that have been sent to a particular domain.
>That's a lot of messages, far more than can be shown in the recipient
>list of a reply message.
>
>Good sideways thinking though.
>Rick
>
>
>Quoting Barbara Needham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Here is a sort of work around. It may not actually do what you want
>> but
>> by looking in two places it might help.
>>
>> In your browser window [not sure whether or not this works with find
>> results]... select all the e-mails of which you want to see the real
>> e-
>> mail address.
>>
>> The tap and hold the reply button in the toolbar. You will see reply
>> to
>> sender, and reply to all. You should also see "reply single
>> message"...
>> choose that. [Note: this doesn't work if the reply-to is a mailing
>> list
>> or yahoo group]. You then should see the addresses in that "fake" new
>> e-
>> mail and can perhaps compare it to the list in the browser [or find?]
>> window.
>>
>> Apple Mail has an option for showing complete addresses... probably
>> powermail should???
>>
>> --
>> Barbara Needham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Barbara Needham
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:01:39 +0900
Am/On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:40:51 -0600 schrieb/wrote cheshirekat:
>I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that I am
>using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on my
>PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up
>with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new
>Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
>should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the
>new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user
>environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups.
use the current version of PM which is UB and copy your PowerMail Folder.
Start PowerMail by dragging the license file to the App and you should
be fine.
Maybe you need to point PM to the current PM folder.
All the best
Matthias
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "Richard Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:27:05 -0500
>>Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
>>should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the
>>new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user
>>environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups.
I get my mac upgraded regularly and always use the migration assistant.
It is just too easy and works wonderfully. Typically only have a couple
of programs I have to re-enter registration.
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "cheshirekat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:06:00 -0600
On Wed, Mar 14, 20079:27 PM, the following words from Richard Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...
>>>Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
>>>should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the
>>>new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user
>>>environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups.
>
>I get my mac upgraded regularly and always use the migration assistant.
>
>It is just too easy and works wonderfully. Typically only have a couple
>
>of programs I have to re-enter registration.
>
>
Through Apple's Discussion Forum, I've heard there are far too many
problems after using the Migration Assistant when going from a G4 Mac to
an Intel Mac. I'm opting to avoid that kind of headache and wasted time.
If I didn't have a 4 year old Mac, I'd be tempted to try the MA, but I
want the experience of enjoying my Mac quickly instead of introducing
problems.
--
"I never before knew the full value of trees. Under them I breakfast,
dine, write, read and receive my company."
- Thomas Jefferson
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "cheshirekat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:10:59 -0600
On Thu, Mar 15, 200711:01 AM, the following words from Matthias Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...
>Am/On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:40:51 -0600 schrieb/wrote cheshirekat:
>
>>I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that I am
>>using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on my
>>PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up
>>with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new
>>Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
>>should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the
>>new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user
>>environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups.
>
>use the current version of PM which is UB and copy your PowerMail Folder.
>Start PowerMail by dragging the license file to the App and you should
>be fine.
>Maybe you need to point PM to the current PM folder.
>
>All the best
>
>Matthias
>
What is UB? So you think it's safe to install by copying PM from a G4 to
the intel instead of installing fresh? With the exception of the
database and other user files.
--
"I never before knew the full value of trees. Under them I breakfast,
dine, write, read and receive my company."
- Thomas Jefferson
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:56:36 -0700
UB = universal binary
On Mar 14, 2007, at 9:10 PM, cheshirekat wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 200711:01 AM, the following words from Matthias Schmidt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...
>
>> Am/On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:40:51 -0600 schrieb/wrote cheshirekat:
>>
>>> I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that
>>> I am
>>> using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on
>>> my
>>> PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't
>>> kept up
>>> with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the
>>> new
>>> Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which
>>> files
>>> should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on
>>> the
>>> new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct
>>> database/user
>>> environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for
>>> backups.
>>
>> use the current version of PM which is UB and copy your PowerMail
>> Folder.
>> Start PowerMail by dragging the license file to the App and you should
>> be fine.
>> Maybe you need to point PM to the current PM folder.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Matthias
>>
> What is UB? So you think it's safe to install by copying PM from a G4
> to
> the intel instead of installing fresh? With the exception of the
> database and other user files.
>
> --
> "I never before knew the full value of trees. Under them I breakfast,
> dine, write, read and receive my company."
> - Thomas Jefferson
>
>
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:18:15 +0900
Am/On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:10:59 -0600 schrieb/wrote cheshirekat:
>What is UB? So you think it's safe to install by copying PM from a G4 to
>the intel instead of installing fresh? With the exception of the
>database and other user files.
you copy the app to your application folder from which source ever.
But you should use the last version (=5.5.3), because it runs native on
IntelliMacs.
Then you copy your PowerMail Folder to the place where you want to have
it, point PM to it, the rest will do PM for you.
All the best
Matthias
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Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "Bruce Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:49:20 -0700
Hi,
I had an amazingly easy conversion from a white G3 iBook to a MacBook Pro
last year - a piece of cake. I had no idea it would be so easy.
As I recall there were some things outside my home directory it didn't
catch (Maybe httpd.conf or something?) but all-in-all highly recommended.
Bruce
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As cheshirekat wrote...
><snip>I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, ... <snip>
>--
>"I never before knew the full value of trees. Under them I breakfast,
>dine, write, read and receive my company."
>- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "computer artwork by subhash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:13:30 +0100
[cheshirekat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 14.3.2007 um 19:40 Uhr:]
>...should I upgrade it to the current version on my
>PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up
>with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new
>Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, ...
I did use the Migration Assistant to set up my new Mac Pro 2 month
before. I used PM 5.5.3 already. No problems with migration! I waited
for all my files to be migrated and everything was perfectly ready after
2 hours. I only had to put in the network in the first plug and
everything worked immediately. It could nor be easier. Almost every
preference was migrated. I remember there were only two or three missing.
I don't think that there is something against upgrading PM on your
PowerBook before.
If you really do not want to use the Migration Assistant, install PM
fresh and copy the folder "PowerMail Files". In my case it resides in "~/
Mail/".
Good luck!
Subhash
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Subject: Re(2): New Mac Finally
From: "computer artwork by subhash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:15:51 +0100
[cheshirekat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 14.3.2007 um 22:06 Uhr:]
>Through Apple's Discussion Forum, I've heard there are far too many
>problems after using the Migration Assistant when going from a G4 Mac to
>an Intel Mac.
Not my experience! It was without any problems. I migrated from an old
G4 (400 MHz).
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:03:03 -0400
cheshirekat / 2007/03/14 / 12:06 AM wrote:
>Through Apple's Discussion Forum, I've heard there are far too many
>problems after using the Migration Assistant when going from a G4 Mac to
>an Intel Mac.
I haven't checked their thread, but this could happen. If you have apps
that is ported from Windows, they most likely depends on less-Mac-
friendly dlib files, which Migration Assistant might fail to link.
Other issue is drivers. This includea some copy protection such as
PACE. Migration Assistant will not copy drivers and kext files. This
can be a real problem when app was copied but its kext didn't.
One more thing. If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really
good chance to spring clean your environment. Migration Assistant will
copy apps which you haven't used for years :-)
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- Hiro
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "Anthony Sanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:31:31 -0500
>One more thing. If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really
>good chance to spring clean your environment. Migration Assistant will
>copy apps which you haven't used for years :-)
This is true. I've done it both ways. The one semi-successful method
that Apple has is the Archive & Restore when reinstalling the OS from
DVD. It will save everything from the Users folder on up, but apps that
operate primarily at the root level, like Retrospect, Norton or Stuffit,
need to be reinstalled from scratch. In some thorny trouble-shooting
modes, I have intentionally worked from a clean slate and the original
install CD's or disk images. It amounts to a weekend watching progress
bars, however.
I just did a G5 -> Mac Pro, and was absolutely blown away at how
seamless the process was.
Tony
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SACO Foods, Inc.
1-800-373-7226
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Subject: Re: New Mac Finally
From: "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:49:08 -0400
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On 3/15/2007 2:31 PM, Anthony Sanna wrote:
>> One more thing. If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really
>> good chance to spring clean your environment. Migration Assistant will
>> copy apps which you haven't used for years :-)
>
> This is true. I've done it both ways. The one semi-successful method
> that Apple has is the Archive & Restore when reinstalling the OS from
> DVD. It will save everything from the Users folder on up, but apps that
> operate primarily at the root level, like Retrospect, Norton or Stuffit,
> need to be reinstalled from scratch. In some thorny trouble-shooting
> modes, I have intentionally worked from a clean slate and the original
> install CD's or disk images. It amounts to a weekend watching progress
> bars, however.
>
> I just did a G5 -> Mac Pro, and was absolutely blown away at how
> seamless the process was.
>
> Tony
Can one be selective about the apps to be migrated? I ask because I
have some stuff such as FAXstf which I don't want moved; it replaced
some of the system's FAXing capability. There are also some remnants of
other apps that are part of the system startup routine, even though the
apps themselves have long since been removed. Now-Up-to-Date is an example.
Given those questions, my inclination is to migrate only the data. I
hope to get a new iMac to replace my aging G4 (400 MHz AGP) and do NOT
want any useless baggage to be transferred. PowerMail should not be a
problem as long as my data folder is intact or would I need to re-apply
the license key should I reinstall the application from scratch all
while retaining my existing data folder?
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