powermail-discuss Digest #2689 - Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2688 - 09/11/07
by "Bill Stecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2688 - 09/11/07
by "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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by "Marco Piovanelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
by "Lyle D. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2688 - 09/11/07
From: "Bill Stecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:01:54 -0400
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM MAILING KLIST. THANKS!
Bill Stecher
On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:00 PM, PowerMail discussions wrote:
> powermail-discuss Digest #2688 - Tuesday, September 11, 2007
>
> Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
> by "Lyle D. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
> by "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
> by "Jim Pistrang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
> From: "Lyle D. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:53:23 -0600
>
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:56:10 -0500, "MLJames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> appears to have written:
>>
>>> Hi Mary Lou,
>>>
>>> I am using the current version of PowerMail 5.5.3 and it DOES still
>>> have
>>> an "Import from Claris Emailer" feature. Pull File Menu to
>>> "Database" to
>>> "Import". Next screen asks for the location of your Emailer
>>> application,
>>> and your choice of address book, messages, or both.
>>>
>>> PowerMail demo only allows a limited number of emails. 200, if I
>>> remember correctly. So don't even try to import all your CE Emails
>>> into
>>> the PM Demo. Maybe just 1 folder of a few emails, just to see it
>>> work.
>>>
>>> In my experience, the PowerMail import from Claris Emailer worked
>>> (via
>>> applescript through OSX/OS9 classic barrier), but not very well for 7
>>> years of heavy CE email usage (no doubt with some db corruption). If
>>> you
>>> have a lot of email, I would definitely recommend EmailChemy to do
>>> the
>>> migration- it's a lot better and faster. I'm surprised that CTMDev
>>> doesn't offer it as a bundle.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Dave Nathanson
>>> Mac Medix
>>
>>
>> Thanks Dave. And yes I do have a lot of e-mail.....since 1995 or so. I
>> have ordered Emailchemy.
>
> I, too, am about to migrate, with reluctance, from Emailer. I bought it
> on Guy Kawasaki's recommendation, if that tells you how long I've been
> using it.
>
> I recall there being discussed a limitation on how many messages you
> could import into or have in your email database with PowerMail. Or
> maybe
> it was the size of the database that is the limit. I've searched my
> archive of powermail-discuss digests, and can find only a reference to
> a
> 2 GB limitation on database size. I've gots tens of thousands of
> messages
> in Emailer.
>
> Are there any other limitations I should know about? I'm about to buy
> EmailChemy anyway, since that looks like the way to go. If there are
> limits to what can be imported, I can always go into Emailer and
> create a
> truncated version of the Emailer database that cuts off at some point
> in
> the past. Or something.
>
> Also, does EmailChemy import attachments in a decent fashion? I have
> been
> deleting spam from Emailer for quite some time without deleting the
> attachments, and I'm assuming that orphaned ones will be left behind
> and
> the good ones (attached to email that I'm importing) will come along
> somehow. Do the attachments use up space in the database?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Lyle
>
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> Subject: Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
> From: "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:03:30 -0700
>
> Lyle D. Gunderson on 9/10/07 said
>
>>
>> I, too, am about to migrate, with reluctance, from Emailer. I bought
>> it
>> on Guy Kawasaki's recommendation, if that tells you how long I've been
>> using it.
>>
>> I recall there being discussed a limitation on how many messages you
>> could import into or have in your email database with PowerMail. Or
>> maybe
>> it was the size of the database that is the limit. I've searched my
>> archive of powermail-discuss digests, and can find only a reference
>> to a
>> 2 GB limitation on database size. I've gots tens of thousands of
>> messages
>> in Emailer.
>>
>> Are there any other limitations I should know about? I'm about to buy
>> EmailChemy anyway, since that looks like the way to go. If there are
>> limits to what can be imported, I can always go into Emailer and
>> create a
>> truncated version of the Emailer database that cuts off at some point
>> in
>> the past. Or something.
>>
>> Also, does EmailChemy import attachments in a decent fashion? I have
>> been
>> deleting spam from Emailer for quite some time without deleting the
>> attachments, and I'm assuming that orphaned ones will be left behind
>> and
>> the good ones (attached to email that I'm importing) will come along
>> somehow. Do the attachments use up space in the database?
>
> The attachments do not take up space in the database.
>
> There is a number of mails limit for the trial version, not for the
> registered version.
>
> There is a 2 gb limit for the powermail database. Reaching this limit
> can
> be staved off for a while [assuming one wants to keep all their
> e-mails]
> by compacting the database.
>
> It is also possible to have your old e-mails in an Old User Environment
> [by creating a New User Environment .. no new registration needed] and
> I
> think the search will include both.
>
>
> --
> Barbara Needham
>
>
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> Subject: Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
> From: "Jim Pistrang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:17:07 -0400
>
> Hi Lyle,
>
>> I recall there being discussed a limitation on how many messages you
>> could import into or have in your email database with PowerMail. Or
>> maybe
>> it was the size of the database that is the limit. I've searched my
>> archive of powermail-discuss digests, and can find only a reference
>> to a
>> 2 GB limitation on database size. I've gots tens of thousands of
>> messages
>> in Emailer.
>
> To add to Barbara's great reply...
>
> I have over 50,000 messages in my PowerMail database, and the database
> size is currently less than 350 MB.
>
> I also bought eMailer when Guy told us to. I encountered lots of
> problems converting to PowerMail until I discovered Emailchemy, that is
> definitely the way to go.
>
> Jim
>
> --
> Jim Pistrang
> JP Computer Resources
> Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network
> 413-256-4569
> <http://www.jpcr.com>
>
>
>
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> End of powermail-discuss Digest
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Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2688 - 09/11/07
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:31:50 +0100
On 11/09/07, Bill Stecher, discombobulated, unleashed:
>PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM MAILING KLIST. THANKS!
>
>Bill Stecher
No problem Bill. Consider it done mate.
--
Cheers,
Cotty
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Subject: Unread mail badge
From: "Marco Piovanelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:51:11 +0200
Hi folks,
Is there a way to have PowerMail display a badge on its Dock
icon when there are any unread messages, just like Apple Mail?
Thanks,
-- marco
--
It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation.
They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely
monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of
ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the
rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.
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Subject: Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
From: "Lyle D. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:23:20 -0600
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:17:07 -0400, "Jim Pistrang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appears
to have written:
>
>Hi Lyle,
>
>>I recall there being discussed a limitation on how many messages you
>>could import into or have in your email database with PowerMail. Or maybe
>>it was the size of the database that is the limit. I've searched my
>>archive of powermail-discuss digests, and can find only a reference to a
>>2 GB limitation on database size. I've gots tens of thousands of messages
>>in Emailer.
>
>To add to Barbara's great reply...
>
>I have over 50,000 messages in my PowerMail database, and the database
>size is currently less than 350 MB.
>
>I also bought eMailer when Guy told us to. I encountered lots of
>problems converting to PowerMail until I discovered Emailchemy, that is
>definitely the way to go.
Thanks, Jim and Barbara! I've downloaded Emailchemy and tried it out, and
it converted 80,008 emails (how embarrassing!) with no problems.
Did I do it right? I told Emailchemy to use the "Standard Mailbox File"
format, then used PowerMail's import to bring the messages in. I created
a test user environment (a very nice feature of PowerMail, btw) for the
test.
All the messages showed up, but lines of text were broken in mid-word
when they are OK in the mailbox file, and html emails had their html and
images attached instead of inline. Is this normal? PowerMail seems to be
able to handle html emails and images just fine when it downloads them
from a mail server. Is there a setting I'm missing or a better way to
import the email? Maybe the fact that emailer is so clueless about html
and images is why those show up as attachments, but it would be nice if
the lines got broken in a less clueless way.
Thanks in advance,
--Lyle
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