powermail-discuss Digest #2694 - Thursday, September 20, 2007
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
by "Steve Abrahamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
by "Bernd Fröhlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re(2): Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
by "Winston Weinmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re(2): Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
by "Paul Collett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
From: "Steve Abrahamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:21:30 -0500
Rick,
I'm not sure I follow you, but I think you might have the original issue
backwards.
The problem is that when I try to move mail from PowerMail to Mail, it
*all* shows up as unread, regardless of it's read status in PowerMail. I
want to preserve the correct read status as I move mail over.
I would think that PowerMail has a flag that it sets on a piece of mail
to indicate whether it's read or not, and it seems like it's just not
exporting that accurately.
CTM engineering? Any comments?
TIA,
Steve
On 9/19/07 at 11:54 AM, Rick Lecoat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>On 18/9/07 (03:49) Steve said:
>
>>I have over 100 nested folders, somewhere between 50k-100k emails, and
>>the read and unread are interspersed throughout. Creating an "unread"
>>folder and moving all unread mail there, then putting it back, would be
>>a massive undertaking.
>
>Steve;
>
>If you're moving the messages into Mail, then you have the Wonderful
>World of Smart Folders open to you (hey, CTM? You listening?).
>You should be able to create a smart folder with the criteria "Show
>unread messages". It'll list all your unread mail WITHOUT moving it from
>it's actual nested location, and you can simply select all and Mark as
>Read or whatever. Then you can simply delete your (now suddenly empty)
>smart folder.
>
>Shazaam!
>I'm here till Thursday. Tip your waitress.
Steve Abrahamson
Ascending Technologies
FileMaker 7 & 8 Certified Developer
http://www.asctech.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
From: "Bernd Fröhlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:00:04 +0200
Steve Abrahamson schrieb:
> I would think that PowerMail has a flag that it sets on a piece of mail
> to indicate whether it's read or not, and it seems like it's just not
> exporting that accurately.
I guess every mailprogram has its own way to store the information
whether a mail is read or not. I don´t think it is possible to move that
information from one program to another.
So you´ll just have to read all your mail first before the move ;-)
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Subject: Re(2): Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
From: "Winston Weinmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:37:27 -0400
Different mail programs also have different ways of storing messages and
other data. How information is stored is not an excuse for not being
able to export some of the data.
An export function should be able to export all the data connected with
a message. Read/Unread flags are part of this data.
PowerMail may not be able to export that part of the data, and/or Mail
may not be able to import it.
One idea to try:
See if you can export a small amount of data in a form which you can
open in a spreadsheet or text editor. Do this for both PowerMail and
Mail, including both Read and Unread mail. See if either one includes a
Read/Unread flag. If neither export it, they probably can't import it
either. Then at least you'd know where the issue lies.
Possible workaround:
Make duplicates of all your PowerMail folders, the original folder for
Read, the duplicate for Unread. Sort the messages by Read and Unread and
put the Unread messages in the Unread folders. (Maybe a script could be
written which would do this for you.)
When you import them into Mail you can batch change all of the Read
items back to Read (since Mail marks them unread - or vice versa if I
got that mixed up). Then recombine the folders and delete the duplicates.
Good luck.
- Winston
Bernd Fröhlich wrote:
>I guess every mailprogram has its own way to store the information
>whether a mail is read or not. I don´t think it is possible to move that
>information from one program to another.
>
>So you´ll just have to read all your mail first before the move ;-)
>
>Steve Abrahamson schrieb:
>> I would think that PowerMail has a flag that it sets on a piece of
>> mail to indicate whether it's read or not, and it seems like it's just
>> not exporting that accurately.
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Subject: Re(2): Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
From: "Paul Collett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:49:01 +0900
Regarding the idea of moving all the unread mail into a temp directory,
doing the transfer to Mail app and then transferring the unread messages
back to their original folders - once you set up/transfer over all the
current filters you're using to deal with your mail, won't you be able
to apply them to the temp folder and get the unread messages back where
they belong?
Paul
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:49:37 -0500 Steve Abrahamson wrote:
>On 9/18/07 at 6:57 PM, Ben Kennedy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>
>>Steve Abrahamson wrote at 11:07 AM (-0500) on 9/14/07:
>>
>>>I'm trying to move an account over to Mail (partially in an effort to
>>>dodge the 2 gig limit that looms on the nearing horizon), and when I
>>>drag a folder out to the Desktop, and then import it into Mail, all the
>>>mail comes in as unread.
>>
>>Hey Steve,
>>
>>I don't use Apple Mail, but is there not some way (as there is in
>>PowerMail) to select a range of messages and then mark them as unread?
>>Wouldn't that solve the problem?
>>
>>Alternatively, if the issue is that you have a mix of read and unread
>>messages in PM whose statuses you wish to preserve, I would suggest
>>creating additional temp folder[s], moving the unread messages to there
>>for the export, and then re-adjusting their statuses accordingly once in
>>Apple Mail.
>
>Ben,
>
>Thanks for your thoughts. The idea is to preserve the read/unread status
>where the messages reside.
>
>I have over 100 nested folders, somewhere between 50k-100k emails, and
>the read and unread are interspersed throughout. Creating an "unread"
>folder and moving all unread mail there, then putting it back, would be
>a massive undertaking.
>
>Steve
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