Thanks to those of you who called my attention to the possibility that a backup operation was somehow causing my "slow addressbook" problem. A long time ago I had set up a nightly backup of the PM addressbook using Apple's Backup software...and then I had forgotten about it. After a weeklong test with Backup turned off, addressbook speed has remained normal.
Joe Hallett 10/17/07 >powermail-discuss Digest #2707 - Wednesday, October 17, 2007 > > Re: Issues with EPS attachments? > by "Justin Beek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Slow Address Book > by "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: PowerMail 5.2.3 db problem. Please help. > by "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Setting PM as the Default Email Reader > by "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: No PowerMail selection in iPhoto '08 > by "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Slow Address Book > by "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Slow Address Book > by "Jim Pistrang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re(2): Powermail support (Was: Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is > by "Winston Weinmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Slow Address Book > by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Slow Address Book > by "Jim Pistrang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Re: Slow Address Book > by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Issues with EPS attachments? >From: "Justin Beek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:05:43 -0500 > >We are getting these from non-teachable customers. :( > >But yes, ZIPs work just fine! > > > >On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Mikael Byström wrote: > >> Justin Beek asked: >> >>> Are we the only ones having this issue? >>> Is there a fix? >> >> Do you zip the files or not? ie do you compress them? >> >> If not, that should do the trick. >> Mikael >> >> Tech facts: >> PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | >> 80GB HD >> >> >> >> > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Slow Address Book >From: "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:00:33 +0200 > >Jeremy Hughes said: > >>Same here. It's been mentioned on this list on more than one occasion. >> >>In our experience, Powermail becomes generally slow and unresponsive >>(not just the address lookup). >> >>We're using Retrospect as our backup program. > >That's a known bug, but I don't remember which app is responsible for >not playing nice with the other. One clue is that I don't have this >problem with another backup application. So I wouldn't blame Powermail >for this particular bug necessarily, at least not outside of use with >Retrospect. > >Mikael > >Tech facts: >PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: PowerMail 5.2.3 db problem. Please help. >From: "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:14:01 +0200 > >Dan MacMillan said: > >>The message database is currently at 2gb, and before I managed to compress >>it, a problem developed. After a reboot, PowerMail attempted to rebuild >>the sort indicies, but this failed after about 12 minutes with the >>following , "A database error occurred" ; "Class=DB ; what=100; when=9; >>err=158". I restarted PowerMail a number of times, and this rebuild fails >>in the same fashion each time. > >The classic response is to delete the sort index located at "~/PowerMail >Files/Message Database index" and let the indices rebuild from scratch. >However your latter "disk full" error could indicate permission problems >or other filesystem problems, so I would first check the disk with >appropriate repair application to rule out physical and logical problems >in the filesystem and then make sure that all files under "PowerMail >Files" was full readable and writeable for the user in question. The >latter can be done in the finder by choosing that folder and set the >proper rights for it and then extend that by clicking "use for included >objects". > > >Mikael > >Tech facts: >PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Setting PM as the Default Email Reader >From: "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:21:38 +0200 > >Georges Piriou suggested: > >>In Preferenze>Generale, under Applicazione di posta di default, select >>Powermail (if Powermail is already installed). > >And this will work with the Filemaker function giovanni wants to sue? I >thought he said that the "Send Mail function.... won't work if Mail >isn't set as the default reader". You're suggesting he set it not to >Mail and I imagined he had tried that already. > >I'd rather look for the solution in editing the script that I hope >Filemaker uses for this function, but then again my expectations for >FileMaker is very low, so I wouldn't bet on that it is possible. > >I think that for several apps that uses email as a function it would be >nice if Apple provided a gateway so we could choose ourselves what app >to use, instead of tying us to their particular app. Are they MS- >wannabes or what's going on? > > >Mikael > >Tech facts: >PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: No PowerMail selection in iPhoto '08 >From: "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:26:10 +0200 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] told > >>Thank you! I was using the older version of iPhoto Mailer Patcher. I >>downloaded 4.1, and it works perfectly with the newest version (7.1) of >>iPhoto, even though the documentation doesn't mention it. > >WHy not give the developer a heads up as he seems to not being aware of >that it is working. Or maybe he just doesn't want to support it (but >then again why not just say that you're on your own). > >Mikael > >Tech facts: >PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Slow Address Book >From: "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:25:16 +0100 > >On 17/10/07 (23:00) Mikael said: > >>That's a known bug, but I don't remember which app is responsible for >>not playing nice with the other. One clue is that I don't have this >>problem with another backup application. So I wouldn't blame Powermail >>for this particular bug necessarily, at least not outside of use with >>Retrospect. >> >>Mikael > >IIRC, the standard best-practice advice is to quit PM before doing a >backup; not because of any particular bugs in any particular software, >but because it is deemed 'best' to close down a database of any sort >before backing up or copying it. > >I find this to be something of a problem, because I want to do regular >backups, but I *don't* want to regularly shut down PM -- due to the >clearing of the Recent Mail Window. (My person soapbox that one, I know, >but it's a substantial problem for me). > >I have considered simply preventing any receive or send operations (and >not performing any other actions in PM) for the duration of a backup, >but leaving PM running... but I'm nervous about doing so on account of >the best-practice advice noted above. > >What do other list members think about this? Would I be likely to f**k >up my database doing backups this way? (Backups are made to external >drive using SuperDuper, btw). > >Thanks in advance; >-- >G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.9 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Slow Address Book >From: "Jim Pistrang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:42:26 -0400 > >Hi Rick, > >>What do other list members think about this? Would I be likely to f**k >>up my database doing backups this way? (Backups are made to external >>drive using SuperDuper, btw). > >I also run SuperDuper, which backs up my drive in the middle of the >night. I have had to restore my PM database on a few occasions, never >with any problem. I do NOT have PM checking mail on a scheduled basis, >so my database is not active during the backup (assuming that I am sleeping). > >Jim > >-- >Jim Pistrang >JP Computer Resources >Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network >413-256-4569 ><http://www.jpcr.com> > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re(2): Powermail support (Was: Re: Exporting from PowerMail - >all mail is Unread) >From: "Winston Weinmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:14:31 -0400 > >Mikael - > >I am not sure I fully understand your comments. If I did not support CTM >I would not bother to give an opinion on features. I'd just go >elsewhere. In particular, I have focussed on behavior which in any other >software would be considered "beta" level. or worse. Having great >features does not excuse having a basic action like printing not work as >expected. > >>please support CTM by patiently ask for requests >Have I been impatient? How do you define patience? Have my comments not >been constructive? > >>engage in a dialog >Dialog goes two ways (by definition). Has CTM responded to my observations? > >>try to be little understanding >There is a difference between asking for major new features (which I >have not done) and asking for a basic feature which does not work >properly be fixed. The failing is not even mentioned in PowerMail's help >or in CTM's online information. How hard would it be to note the problem >in the documentation, along with the work-around? > >>one day CTM will have to make a move >To fix defects or add features? > >>your point will not be made stronger by just repeating it now and then >My experience has been that regular follow-up on anything you would like >to see done makes it more likely to happen. This goes for plumbing work, >car repair, getting shirts from the cleaners, writing computer software >and pretty much any other area where one wants to see action sooner >rather than later. Lack of follow-up often has the opposite result. >(However since my original comments on HTML printing I have only >mentioned HTML printing when it seemed appropriate. I have not started >new discussions on the issue. It was relevant to this thread,) > >Also, new users join the discussion list from time to time. Should >someone not warn about the HTML problem, given that CTM does not mention it? > >Commenting "now and then" on a major failing in software I use more >often than any other seems entirely appropriate. I encourage others to >do the same for features they would like to see improved or added. > >Thanks. > >- Winston > > >Mikael Byström wrote: > >>Winston, please support CTM by patiently ask for requests and engage in >>a dialog and try to be little understanding that while CTM are, unlike >>many other companies developing email software, charging for it, they do >>provide an alternative that have many features others do not. That gap >>is closing, yes, and one day CTM will have to make a move, but the call >>is theirs. That does not mean you shouldn't express your opinion in a >>constructive manner, but please understand that your point will not be >>made stronger by just repeating it now and then. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Slow Address Book >From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:41:21 -0500 > >CTM clearly stated in the past to NOT have PM open when doing a backup >and that this can leave you with a corrupted database. CAN, not >necessarily does. > >A while back somebody was so kind to post a little script which will >shut PM down and that you can have SuperDuper run as part of the daily >backup before the real backup begins. Since I run this, I feel MUCH more >comfortable that I can trust my backed up data and my backed-up PM >databases will be integer when I need them. > >---marlyse > > >------------ former message(s) quotes: ------------- > > >>Hi Rick, >> >>>What do other list members think about this? Would I be likely to f**k >>>up my database doing backups this way? (Backups are made to external >>>drive using SuperDuper, btw). >> >>I also run SuperDuper, which backs up my drive in the middle of the >>night. I have had to restore my PM database on a few occasions, never >>with any problem. I do NOT have PM checking mail on a scheduled basis, >>so my database is not active during the backup (assuming that I am sleeping). >> >>Jim >> >>-- >>Jim Pistrang >>JP Computer Resources >>Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network >>413-256-4569 >><http://www.jpcr.com> >> >> >> > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Slow Address Book >From: "Jim Pistrang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:39:26 -0400 > >Hi Marlyse, > >Actually, I also use a shutdown script. The person who initiated this >message was reluctant to shut down PM because they didn't want to lose >their Recent Mail Window. Guess it's a choice they'll have to make. > >Jim > >>CTM clearly stated in the past to NOT have PM open when doing a backup >>and that this can leave you with a corrupted database. CAN, not >>necessarily does. >> >>A while back somebody was so kind to post a little script which will >>shut PM down and that you can have SuperDuper run as part of the daily >>backup before the real backup begins. Since I run this, I feel MUCH more >>comfortable that I can trust my backed up data and my backed-up PM >>databases will be integer when I need them. > >-- >Jim Pistrang >JP Computer Resources >Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network >413-256-4569 ><http://www.jpcr.com> > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Subject: Re: Slow Address Book >From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:43:08 -0500 > >Ah, I get it - had not paid attention to the full thread. > >I do understand the issue with the Recent Mail window. > >How I overcome this limitation is to shut down PM manually after reading >my email for the last time on a day - mostly I remember now as I have >gotten into the habit, but if not, the script does it's job. > >---marlyse > > >------------ former message(s) quotes: ------------- > > >>Hi Marlyse, >> >>Actually, I also use a shutdown script. The person who initiated this >>message was reluctant to shut down PM because they didn't want to lose >>their Recent Mail Window. Guess it's a choice they'll have to make. >> >>Jim >> >>>CTM clearly stated in the past to NOT have PM open when doing a backup >>>and that this can leave you with a corrupted database. CAN, not >>>necessarily does. >>> >>>A while back somebody was so kind to post a little script which will >>>shut PM down and that you can have SuperDuper run as part of the daily >>>backup before the real backup begins. Since I run this, I feel MUCH more >>>comfortable that I can trust my backed up data and my backed-up PM >>>databases will be integer when I need them. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >End of powermail-discuss Digest >
