powermail-discuss Digest #2745 - Monday, November 26, 2007
Re: Thanksgiving
by "Karsten Liere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Threading
by "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Aperture and PM - how to?
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Jan M.J. Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Aperture and PM - how to?
by "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: problem with PM search function
by "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Aperture and PM - how to?
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Aperture and PM - how to?
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Hans Gomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Tim Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re(2): Threading
by "Jan M.J. Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Thanksgiving
by "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Thanksgiving
by "C. A. Niemiec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Thanksgiving
by "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Threading
by "Hans Gomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
From: "Karsten Liere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:39:24 +0100
Thank you for this live clip!
Great perfomrance.
Cheers,
k.
>
>Every year some of PM list members enjoyed my Christmas music. This
>year I added Thanksgiving music. It's an arrangement of a hymn as I do
>with Christmas music. Here is a live recording clip from last night:
><http://www.anonemusic.com/node/827>
>Y'know, we can play Christmas selections on all the shows during the
>season, but Thanksgiving music can be played only if the show is close
>enough to that Thursday!
>
>Hope you enjoy!
>
>--
>
>- Hiro
>
>Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
><http://a-no-ne.com> <http://anonemusic.com>
>
>
>
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Subject: Threading
From: "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:04:16 +0100
Hello,
I'm new with powermail and now I'm looking for the features. Because I'm
described to many mailing lists, I was looking for a feature that shows
me the threads for example sorted by message ID or subject. That makes
it more easy for me to read the threads.
Can anyone tell me how to do it?
Sorry for my maybe badly english. Hope someone can help me with that.
--
Greetings out of Munich
Hans
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:58:14 -0600
Hallo Hans,
You can NOT sort by threading, only by subject.
To sort by subject click on the top of the list view onto SUBJECT - if
you want to change ascending to descending, clicl onto the little
triangle at the top right of the window.
Let us know if that worked out for you.
If you have troubles understanding my English, let me know and I will re-
send this email in German.
---marlyse
------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------
>Hello,
>
>I'm new with powermail and now I'm looking for the features. Because I'm
>described to many mailing lists, I was looking for a feature that shows
>me the threads for example sorted by message ID or subject. That makes
>it more easy for me to read the threads.
>
>Can anyone tell me how to do it?
>
>Sorry for my maybe badly english. Hope someone can help me with that.
>
>--
>Greetings out of Munich
>Hans
>
>
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:27:45 +0100
>Hallo Hans,
>
>You can NOT sort by threading, only by subject.
>
>To sort by subject click on the top of the list view onto SUBJECT - if
>you want to change ascending to descending, clicl onto the little
>triangle at the top right of the window.
>
>Let us know if that worked out for you.
>
>If you have troubles understanding my English, let me know and I will re-
>send this email in German.
>
>---marlyse
>
>
>------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm new with powermail and now I'm looking for the features. Because I'm
>>described to many mailing lists, I was looking for a feature that shows
>>me the threads for example sorted by message ID or subject. That makes
>>it more easy for me to read the threads.
>>
>>Can anyone tell me how to do it?
>>
>>Sorry for my maybe badly english. Hope someone can help me with that.
>>
>>--
>>Greetings out of Munich
>>Hans
>>
>>
>
>
Hi Marlyse,
well think maybe wrote it here. Maybe to show it what I mean here an example:
Start Thread (1)
answer (1)
answer on the answer (1)
Next Thread (2)
answer (2)
answer on the answer (2)
Thats what I mean and also miss in PM.
Don't know if it will be possible and also don't know how to say it in
English exactly.
I don't want only sort by date or subject, what I mean is that I whant
have a discussion on a mailing list together so that each discussion is
together and not that you found the starting thread at the end and a
answer onto the thread 50 mails later.
Thnx for your answer.
--
Greetings out of Munich
Hans
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:41:08 +0900
Hello,
Am/On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:27:45 +0100 schrieb/wrote Hans Glomme:
>well think maybe wrote it here. Maybe to show it what I mean here an example:
>
>Start Thread (1)
> answer (1)
> answer on the answer (1)
>Next Thread (2)
> answer (2)
> answer on the answer (2)
>
>Thats what I mean and also miss in PM.
>
>Don't know if it will be possible and also don't know how to say it in
>English exactly.
>
>I don't want only sort by date or subject, what I mean is that I whant
>have a discussion on a mailing list together so that each discussion is
>together and not that you found the starting thread at the end and a
>answer onto the thread 50 mails later.
your question was understood.
Sorting by Thread is still a missing feature in PM.
We hope, that CTM will implement that in one of the next versions.
I'm also waiting to see that, meanwhile I use filters and folders for
sorting the mails of different lists.
Although other mailclients do have that feature, I still use PM, because
it's the most stable client on the Mac, especially, when you get a lot
of mails per day.
Thanks and all the best
Matthias
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Subject: Aperture and PM - how to?
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:16:47 +0900
Hello,
does anyone know, how to set in Apple's apps the mail client to PM?
These apps, like Apertue don't respect the standard mail client and let
one choose only between Mali, Eudora and Encourage, this is of course
not what I want ;-)
Thanks and all the best
Matthias
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Jan M.J. Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:51:15 +0100
Hans Glomme scripsit dd. Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:04:16 +0100 (internet: @044)
>Hello,
>
>I'm new with powermail and now I'm looking for the features. Because I'm
>described to many mailing lists, I was looking for a feature that shows
>me the threads for example sorted by message ID or subject. That makes
>it more easy for me to read the threads.
>
>Can anyone tell me how to do it?
>
>Sorry for my maybe badly english. Hope someone can help me with that.
>
>--
>Greetings out of Munich
>Hans
>
>
>
Hi Hans,
Sort your messages by "Date Sent" by clicking on that column in the
message browser. Then enter (part of) the subject of the thread in the
filter in the upper right corner of the browser.
It is not entirely the feature you are looking for, but nonetheless a
good part of it.
Kind regards,
Jan Storms
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Subject: Re: Aperture and PM - how to?
From: "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:26:14 +0000
On 26/11/07 (03:16) Matthias said:
>Hello,
>
>does anyone know, how to set in Apple's apps the mail client to PM?
>These apps, like Apertue don't respect the standard mail client and let
>one choose only between Mali, Eudora and Encourage, this is of course
>not what I want ;-)
>
>Thanks and all the best
>
>Matthias
Matthias;
My guess would be that if an application does not respect the 'Default'
mail application (which is set, somewhat controversially, via Apple
Mail's preferences) then the only way to force the application to use PM
would be with an app-specific patch/hack, like the one that forces iCal
to use PM for its email alerts, or the one that adds PM to iPhoto's list
of email options.
I'm no programmer, so I can't help you further than that I'm afraid,
although a search on somewhere like Version Tracker might throw up a
useful result.
All this is guesswork of course. If anyone knows different, do tell!
Best regards...
Rick
--
G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.9 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode
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Subject: Re: problem with PM search function
From: "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:50:51 +0000
On 25/11/07 (23:16) MB said:
>I was advocating that the user that had deleted the index should at
>startup or even the minute the index file got missing if running
>already, be prompted with appropriate information, asked to put it back
>- perhaps by the asking the user where to look for it- or to rebuild it
>from scratch. This whether it happened intentionally or not. If none of
>the two options of relocate or rebuild was chosen, possibly by the user
>canceling the dialog, PM could be used without an index. but the user
>would at least be informed something needed to be done at some point.
>Then at certain times for example at startup PM could remind the user
>that a rebuilt index was needed to retain proper search functionality.
I agree. We were, perhaps, talking at slightly crossed purposes before;
I think your main issue was with PM not alerting the user that the index
was missing, whereas I was focusing more on whether PM should silently
begin an automatic index-rebuild. Just different aspects of the same
issue, really.
I agree that PM should offer an alert if the index is missing or damaged/
out of sync. Probably at startup, and each time a search is initiated
would be the best times to offer a warning to the user. An warning
should the user try and manually delete the index would be nice, but I'm
not sure how that would be achieved *prior to deletion* since PM does
not offer the ability to delete the index from within itself; such a
file deletion would necessarily be done from the Finder (or Terminal, if
you like to do things that way...), and AFAIK PM would not be able to
intervene *directly* with Finder operations -- it could only react to it
*after* the event, when it subsequently detected that the index was missing.
Which leaves the question of 'when would PM notice that the index was
missing?' I assume that having PM verify the location and condition of
the index on a near-constant basis is not feasible -- too many calls
back and forth between PM and the file directory or something (sorry,
I'm not a programmer). But maybe it should check at startup and at the
start of each search... and perhaps when brought to the foreground?
Then provide suitable dialogues to the user if needed.
Rick
--
G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.9 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode
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Subject: Re: Aperture and PM - how to?
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:56:06 +0900
Rick,
Am/On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:26:14 +0000 schrieb/wrote Rick Lecoat:
>On 26/11/07 (03:16) Matthias said:
>>does anyone know, how to set in Apple's apps the mail client to PM?
>>These apps, like Apertue don't respect the standard mail client and let
>>one choose only between Mali, Eudora and Encourage, this is of course
>>not what I want ;-)
>>
>My guess would be that if an application does not respect the 'Default'
>mail application (which is set, somewhat controversially, via Apple
>Mail's preferences) then the only way to force the application to use PM
>would be with an app-specific patch/hack, like the one that forces iCal
>to use PM for its email alerts, or the one that adds PM to iPhoto's list
>of email options.
that's exactly what I'm looking for.
Do you know, were I can find those patches (for iPhoto and iCal)?
Thanks and all the best
Matthias
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Subject: Re: Aperture and PM - how to?
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:12:13 +0900
Am/On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:26:14 +0000 schrieb/wrote Rick Lecoat:
>My guess would be that if an application does not respect the 'Default'
>mail application (which is set, somewhat controversially, via Apple
>Mail's preferences) then the only way to force the application to use PM
>would be with an app-specific patch/hack, like the one that forces iCal
>to use PM for its email alerts, or the one that adds PM to iPhoto's list
>of email options.
sorry, just found the 2 patches.
Thanks and all the best
Matthias
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:23:35 +0100
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:51:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jan,
>Sort your messages by "Date Sent" by clicking on that column in the
>message browser. Then enter (part of) the subject of the thread in the
>filter in the upper right corner of the browser.
If I understand it correctly, there will be only shown then one thread.
>
>It is not entirely the feature you are looking for, but nonetheless a
>good part of it.
Yes of course and hope that issue will be solved soon by the developer
and also hope that they read the mailing list here.
Or does any Bug-tracker or something like that exist where you also can
make suggestion of improvement? Because I think some things must be
changed because they are normally standard for a mail client and not a
needful thing only.
For example:
- reciept- and reading confirmation
- Threading
- In some clients also the possibility to filter for mailing lists
- ....
Think there will be some things if you have a look what the most MUA's
can do for you and here are still missed.
--
Greetings
Hans
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:49:35 +0100
Hans Glomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> - reciept- and reading confirmation
There is no way to be sure someone has really read your mail unless
they've said so, and anyway, a request for automatic confirmation can be
construed as an intrusion on privacy. If PowerMail should support this
feature in a future version, I would instantly turn it off. This kind of
information is nobody's business unless I decide it is.
> - Threading
I've never used a mail client that supported threading, so I don't know
_what_ I miss -- but I cannot say that I miss it. All I hear is people
complaining about threading not working reliably. For example, I have
subscribed to several mailing lists in digest mode. When I am replying
to a message within a digest, I am necessarily breaking the thread;
there's nothing I can do about it.
> - In some clients also the possibility to filter for mailing lists
Maybe I don't understand what you are missing, but I have filters set up
for all the mailing lists I have subscribed to. What is it that filters
should do that they don't do already?
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Hans Gomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:05:59 +0100
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:49:35 +0100,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hans Glomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>> - reciept- and reading confirmation
>
> There is no way to be sure someone has really read your mail unless
> they've said so, and anyway, a request for automatic confirmation can be
> construed as an intrusion on privacy. If PowerMail should support this
> feature in a future version, I would instantly turn it off. This kind of
> information is nobody's business unless I decide it is.
You are right ;) But my business partner normally confirm
it that they read.
But what you can do and what the most server understood is,
that you can ask the server for a delivery confirmation.
Of course you never can be sure that the recipient has read
your mail, understood it or put it unread in the trash.
>
>> - Threading
>
> I've never used a mail client that supported threading, so I don't know
> _what_ I miss -- but I cannot say that I miss it. All I hear is people
> complaining about threading not working reliably. For example, I have
> subscribed to several mailing lists in digest mode. When I am replying
> to a message within a digest, I am necessarily breaking the thread;
> there's nothing I can do about it.
Well if you got 500 Mails each day from different lists and
searching for a special theme or want follow a longer
thread you will know what I mean ;)
Think it's very exhausting if you don't have such a feature.
>
>> - In some clients also the possibility to filter for mailing lists
>
> Maybe I don't understand what you are missing, but I have filters set up
> for all the mailing lists I have subscribed to. What is it that filters
> should do that they don't do already?
Ok show me the filter for "list-id" ;) Because the list-id
is allways the same address. In some lists you have the
list mail into cc in other ones from an also in reply to.
--
Greetings
Hans
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Tim Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:28:49 +0100
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 2:05 pm +0100, Hans Gomme wrote:
>>> - In some clients also the possibility to filter for mailing lists
>>
>> Maybe I don't understand what you are missing, but I have filters set up
>> for all the mailing lists I have subscribed to. What is it that filters
>> should do that they don't do already?
>
>Ok show me the filter for "list-id" ;) Because the list-id
>is allways the same address. In some lists you have the
>list mail into cc in other ones from an also in reply to.
There isn't a ready-made filter, but in the 'Filters' pane you can
select 'Other field...', and type 'List-Id' into the box.
--
TimH
PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.9 | PowerBook FW/500 | 1GB RAM
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:31:54 +0100
Hans Gomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>Ok show me the filter for "list-id" ;) Because the list-id
>is allways the same address. In some lists you have the
>list mail into cc in other ones from an also in reply to.
Well, if there is a "list-id" (whatever that is) in the header, then you
can filter for it (select "Anderes Feld ..." if it's not in the standard
list of header fields).
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
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Subject: Re(2): Threading
From: "Jan M.J. Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:33:38 +0100
Hans Gomme scripsit dd. Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:05:59 +0100 (internet: @587)
>>> - In some clients also the possibility to filter for mailing lists
>>
>> Maybe I don't understand what you are missing, but I have filters set up
>> for all the mailing lists I have subscribed to. What is it that filters
>> should do that they don't do already?
>
>Ok show me the filter for "list-id" ;) Because the list-id
>is allways the same address. In some lists you have the
>list mail into cc in other ones from an also in reply to.
>--
>Greetings
>Hans
>
>
You would use the "Other Field..." option to define your filter criterion.
Jan
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:53:07 +0100
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:31:54 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hans Gomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>>Ok show me the filter for "list-id" ;) Because the list-id
>>is allways the same address. In some lists you have the
>>list mail into cc in other ones from an also in reply to.
>
>Well, if there is a "list-id" (whatever that is) in the header, then you
>can filter for it (select "Anderes Feld ..." if it's not in the standard
>list of header fields).
>
Sorry to say it ;) You are wrong here an example header from a mailman
list and that's a header what is strict RFC:
List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-
users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users>
List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
if you look for example in entourage you also will find there a
possibility to filter for that x-header.
And all Mailing lists use it doesn't matter if Wikipedia, Yahoo, mailman etc.
Also the Postfix developer Mailing list use this and I can't think that
special this guys don't use non RFC headers :)
--
Greetings
Hans
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:54:20 +0100
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:28:49 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>There isn't a ready-made filter, but in the 'Filters' pane you can
>select 'Other field...', and type 'List-Id' into the box.
Thank you I will try this :) Will be very helpful for me if it works.
--
Greetings
Hans
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Hans Glomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:11:19 +0100
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:33:38 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>You would use the "Other Field..." option to define your filter criterion.
Hi Jan,
I try but not so the hit :( Because I see I allways must copy it and
paste it into the filter.
I also looked into entourage (example) and see that they have a special
ruleset for Mailing list called "Malinglist rules".
Into Gyazmail the field in the rule manager exist. Also for thunderbird
you can get a mailing list plugin to make rules using the list-id.
But think also must work without that field for now till the developer
have change it.
How normally they will be informed about missing things? Means how can a
user make a suggestion?
Thnx for your answer.
--
Greetings
Hans
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Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
From: "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:36:08 -0500
Tim Lapin / 07.11.25 / 1:30 PM wrote:
>However, there seems to be a display problem with the page, at least on
>my wide screen iMac. It appears that there is some text that is cut off
>above the "HOME" and "Contact" options. I can only see the bottom tips
>of what looks like text.
Ouch. Maybe this is a good opportunity for me to pick PM listers brain.
That text there are supposed to be hidden. You weren't supposed to look
at them! They are keywords for search engine to pickup. I don't know
what is the best way to write home page for search engine these days,
but they still seems to catch that text I hid there so I think it is
kinda working.
The problem is that setting css on that text to 1px isn't working,
obviously. This is pretty off-topic so off list discussion might be
more appropriate. Any suggestion would be appreciated.
--
- Hiro
Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
<http://a-no-ne.com> <http://anonemusic.com>
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Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
From: "C. A. Niemiec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:33:08 -0500
>The problem is that setting css on that text to 1px isn't working,
>obviously. This is pretty off-topic so off list discussion might be
>more appropriate. Any suggestion would be appreciated.
I don't have the URL handy, but target that text block and
{ display: none; }
should get rid of it. Maybe even:
{ display: none !important; }
for IE.
Chris
--
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:40:59 -0800
Hans Glomme on 11/26/07 said
>On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:51:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Hi Jan,
>
>>Sort your messages by "Date Sent" by clicking on that column in the
>>message browser. Then enter (part of) the subject of the thread in the
>>filter in the upper right corner of the browser.
>
>If I understand it correctly, there will be only shown then one thread.
>
>>
>>It is not entirely the feature you are looking for, but nonetheless a
>>good part of it.
>
>Yes of course and hope that issue will be solved soon by the developer
>and also hope that they read the mailing list here.
We have discussed threading before and it seems that threading is
difficult to implement in a mail application. At that time it was
something that was NOT going to be included in Power Mail. I missed
threading when I first came to Power Mail but now with the other
advantages I keep Power Mail anyway.
As for as sorting into folders by mailing list, that is easy to set up.
Usually I use the Reply-To address when setting up the filter. Now, if
you mean some sort WITHIN a mailing list folder, I don't do that. But I
have a whole section of mailing lists divided by their names.
I make a top folder that says "Mailing Lists." Nothing actually goes in
to that folder. Then under that there are sub-folders with the name of
each list I am on.
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Barbara Needham
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Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
From: "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:47:22 -0500
C. A. Niemiec / 07.11.26 / 10:33 AM wrote:
>{ display: none !important; }
>
>for IE.
Ahhhh, This was what I was missing. Not only IE, Opera has this
problem too, and that was the reason I tried to set to 1px. It is
working great now. Thank you!
--
- Hiro
Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
<http://a-no-ne.com> <http://anonemusic.com>
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:53:58 +0100
Hans Glomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Sorry to say it ;) You are wrong here an example header from a mailman
> list and that's a header what is strict RFC:
Well, it is as I (and others) have said: If there is a "list-id" field
in the header (not for this list, as far as I can tell), then you can
filter for it using "Other field ..." (I had mentioned the German
localization "Anderes Feld...", assuming you were German).
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
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Subject: Re: Threading
From: "Hans Gomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:28:22 +0100
Hi Barbara
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:40:59 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> We have discussed threading before and it seems that threading is
> difficult to implement in a mail application. At that time it was
> something that was NOT going to be included in Power Mail. I missed
> threading when I first came to Power Mail but now with the other
> advantages I keep Power Mail anyway.
Well think nothing seems easy if you try it :) Some things
are difficult other ones not so :)
Well the point is not that is will be really difficult to
sor a mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But think at that situation. You have a mailing list with
100 e-mails and more each day.
Now at first you have a thread let's say A. Then you become
answers on that. You will be very interested into that
Thread. Then someone say "Hey I must look first something
before I answer", during the time he think about comes
another 500 Mails with other threads. Then you have the
thread you ar interested at the bottom some answers maybe
in the middle and other ones at the top. Think that's not
really a good working. Or you see it not like me?
Ok now you can go and say for each thread I'm interested I
make a subfolder and filter by topic but think that can't
be really a solution?!
I'm not sure but I think normal the MUA's I know do the
threading by using the message ID. Normal every thread have
a starting message id and if you look for example the
message ID here (Message-Id:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) will be during
the thread allways the same (local part) only if a reply of
a reply follows the host part change.
But I'm not the real expert in this thing I only think to
remember to read something bout the threading and how it
normal works in MUA's.
> As for as sorting into folders by mailing list, that is easy to set up.
> Usually I use the Reply-To address when setting up the filter. Now, if
> you mean some sort WITHIN a mailing list folder, I don't do that. But I
> have a whole section of mailing lists divided by their names.
> I make a top folder that says "Mailing Lists." Nothing actually goes in
> to that folder. Then under that there are sub-folders with the name of
> each list I am on.
The List-id field was only a smal problem for me. And for
me it's not so necessary like the possibility to sort by
thread.
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