powermail-discuss Digest #2912 - Tuesday, December 2, 2008
HTML display in 6.0b3
by "Ben Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
More PM 6 Impressions
by "Mark S. P. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: HTML display in 6.0b3
by "Sean McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: More PM 6 Impressions
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: HTML display in 6.0b3
by "Ben Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: More PM 6 Impressions
by "Mark S. P. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: More PM 6 Impressions
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: HTML display in 6.0b3
From: "Ben Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:43:04 -0800
Yall,
The "simple header" addition in the latest beta is an improvement, but
falls short of the mark:
- it looks inconsistent from the regular header displayed for plaintext
messages.
- the recipient/sender names are not clickable or draggable as usual.
- its entire text is included in quoting when the message is replied to.
I still don't understand why it is insurmountable to render this in the
same way as for plaintext messages. Surely it is a separate view being
drawn in that case anyway? What is it about the HTML view that
precludes drawing the same header at its top?
Furthermore, I still find that about half the time clicks on links in
the HTML simply fail to work unless I first "view message in web
browser". The lack of response is intermittent and inconsistent.
-b
--
Ben Kennedy (chief magician)
zygoat creative technical services
http://www.zygoat.ca
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Subject: More PM 6 Impressions
From: "Mark S. P. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:59:46 +0900
As other have mentioned, PM 6's QuickLook support for attachments can be
very useful. However, this is another feature that fails to work as
expected when Japanese is the active input method. (Not sure there is
much CTM can do about this though, just pointing out that this is not
universally useful.)
The Finder-like view for Folders is also nice. It would be even nicer if
we would apply label colours to the folder icon itself, rather than just
(or instead of) the name. I would prefer it if this genuinely copied the
Finder behaviour since I do not use some labels in PM simply because the
colour makes the folder name difficult to read.
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Mark Smith: Nara, Japan
This message was written while listening to: Learning To Fly by Pink
Floyd from Echoes: the best of Pink Floyd
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Subject: Re: HTML display in 6.0b3
From: "Sean McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:01:43 -0500
Ben Kennedy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-12-01 7:43 PM said:
>I still don't understand why it is insurmountable to render this in the
>same way as for plaintext messages. Surely it is a separate view being
>drawn in that case anyway? What is it about the HTML view that
>precludes drawing the same header at its top?
I suspect it has to do with the shiny new WebKit being use to render the
HTML, and the crusty old PowerPlant to do everything else.
Sean
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Subject: Re: More PM 6 Impressions
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:49:07 +0900
Mark,
Am/On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:59:46 +0900 schrieb/wrote Mark S. P. Smith:
>As other have mentioned, PM 6's QuickLook support for attachments can be
>very useful. However, this is another feature that fails to work as
>expected when Japanese is the active input method. (Not sure there is
>much CTM can do about this though, just pointing out that this is not
>universally useful.)
do you mean, when you switch keyboard (input) to hiragana that Quick
Look doesn't work?
I just tried that and it works as expected for me.
>
>The Finder-like view for Folders is also nice. It would be even nicer if
>we would apply label colours to the folder icon itself, rather than just
imho that's a nice idea.
Not sure if CTM still can do something about it in this stage of beta.
Thanks and all the best
Matthias
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Subject: Re: HTML display in 6.0b3
From: "Ben Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:03:29 -0800
Sean McBride wrote at 10:01 PM (-0500) on 12/1/08:
>I suspect it has to do with the shiny new WebKit being use to render the
>HTML, and the crusty old PowerPlant to do everything else.
Yeah. So? Shift the origin of the WebView down a hundred pixels or
whatever, and draw the headers, like usual, in their usual place.
-b
--
Ben Kennedy (chief magician)
zygoat creative technical services
http://www.zygoat.ca
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Subject: Re: More PM 6 Impressions
From: "Mark S. P. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:55:02 +0900
At Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:49:07 +0900, the quick nimble fingers of Matthias
Schmidt wrote:
>>As other have mentioned, PM 6's QuickLook support for attachments can be
>>very useful. However, this is another feature that fails to work as
>>expected when Japanese is the active input method. (Not sure there is
>>much CTM can do about this though, just pointing out that this is not
>>universally useful.)
>
>do you mean, when you switch keyboard (input) to hiragana that Quick
>Look doesn't work?
>I just tried that and it works as expected for me.
That is indeed what I meant. It does not work here, with Japanese as the
default language. Likewise, pressing the space bar, with Japanese input
active, when viewing the list of messages in 3-pane view does not scroll
down one batch, but takes you quite close to the bottom of the list.
(This has been true of PM 4 and 5 as well.)
Mark
--
Mac OS X 10.5.5 (2.2 GHz MacBook 2 GB RAM)
PM 6b3
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Subject: Re: More PM 6 Impressions
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:13:05 +0900
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