powermail-discuss Digest #2934 - Sunday, January 4, 2009

  Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
          by "Sean McBride" <[email protected]>
  Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
          by "Matthias Schmidt" <[email protected]>
  Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
          by "Sean McBride" <[email protected]>
  Re: PM 6 Auto-Reply is broken
          by "PowerMail Engineering" <[email protected]>


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Subject: Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
From: "Sean McBride" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:49:14 -0500

PowerMail Engineering ([email protected]) on 2009-01-03 6:14 AM said:

>>I'm also confused about how this feature is supposed to work.
>>
>>For me, it's acting as follows:
>> - I select a message with title "foo bar"
>> - I choose 'View Thread'
>> - a new window appears showing messages with "foo" and "bar" in their
>>subject.  Even if not part of the same thread at all.  It also misses
>>some that are part of the thread.
>
>Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for
>messages whose subject include the exact phrase "foo bar"). That is not
>perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but
>with the same subject, especially for short subjects like "hello". But
>it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has
>been changed).

Why did you choose to use the Subject instead of the In-Reply-To,
Message-Id, and similar headers?

Are you on Apple's Cocoa list?  Maybe you can repro the exact case that
I can.  See attached screenshot (which I'll send separately since this
list doesn't allow attachments).

Sean



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Subject: Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:32:36 +0900

Am/On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:49:14 -0500 schrieb/wrote Sean McBride:

>PowerMail Engineering ([email protected]) on 2009-01-03 6:14 AM said:
>
>>>I'm also confused about how this feature is supposed to work.
>>>
>>>For me, it's acting as follows:
>>> - I select a message with title "foo bar"
>>> - I choose 'View Thread'
>>> - a new window appears showing messages with "foo" and "bar" in their
>>>subject.  Even if not part of the same thread at all.  It also misses
>>>some that are part of the thread.
>>
>>Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for
>>messages whose subject include the exact phrase "foo bar"). That is not
>>perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but
>>with the same subject, especially for short subjects like "hello". But
>>it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has
>>been changed).
>
>Why did you choose to use the Subject instead of the In-Reply-To,
>Message-Id, and similar headers?

I'd ask the same question ....
It shouldn't be too difficult to implement this as a fixed search for
those headers.



Thanks and all the best

Matthias


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Subject: Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
From: "Sean McBride" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:13:29 -0500

Matthias Schmidt ([email protected]) on 2009-01-04 4:32 AM said:

>>>Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for
>>>messages whose subject include the exact phrase "foo bar"). That is not
>>>perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but
>>>with the same subject, especially for short subjects like "hello". But
>>>it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has
>>>been changed).
>>
>>Why did you choose to use the Subject instead of the In-Reply-To,
>>Message-Id, and similar headers?
>
>I'd ask the same question ....
>It shouldn't be too difficult to implement this as a fixed search for
>those headers.

I'll add that the way it is done currently makes it not very useful.  My
Cocoa-dev folder has 116000 messages.  Many message subjects are
similar.  Viewing by thread is important precisely in those situations
where you have many many similar messages that you are trying to sort out.

Sean



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Subject: Re: PM 6 Auto-Reply is broken
From: "PowerMail Engineering" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:41:05 +0100

George Henne wrote:

>When I set a Mail Filter to do an Auto-Reply, it simply sends the
>orignal message as a reply, ignoring the text in "Set Reply..."
>
>However, the original message (in the In Box) is modified, as follows:
>Note that the Reply text is inserted before the original text of the email.

Hum, you are right, autoreply is broken in 6.0. It will be fixed in 6.0.1.

Thanks for the report


Jérôme - CTM Engineering


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