powermail-discuss Digest #2946 - Sunday, January 25, 2009
Re: address book sync
by "angel" <[email protected]>
Re: address book sync
by "angel" <[email protected]>
Re(2): address book sync
by "Alan Harper" <[email protected]>
How to retrieve messages from old Message Database?
by "Raphaël PAREJO" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: address book sync
From: "angel" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:30:55 -0600
hi Alan,
thanks for the help. it seems absurd that we shouldn't be able to to
sync or syncH with address book since so many other programs are
using. i tried to avoid using it, but the wave is heavily towards
using it's database for just about everything (including of course
iphone, PIMs, bulk mail programs, etc.)
the problem is that i've used PM much longer and more frequently than
Addres Book, especially when it comes to keep email addresses up to
date. so deleting PM's contacts means losing many (and likely more
up-to-date) email addresses.
my Address Book more often holds snail mail that i'd like to keep for
that rare occasion of needing that ancient reference, PM more often
has not only email, but updated email.
but if i want to use virtually any other program, it's not PM that
those talk to.
anyone else have a work around that doesn't require losing PM's
contacts or retyping what could be 100s?
thanks again and cheers,
angel
Quoting Alan Harper <[email protected]>:
> Hi Angel
>
> First, I asked about the same question in 2006 and got the following
> response:
>
> Sean McBride ([email protected]) said on 10/12/06:
>
>> Alan Harper ([email protected]) on 2006-10-11 19:50 said:
>>
>>> SHORT QUESTION:
>>>
>>> Has anyone figured out a way to keep the PowerMail address book and
>>> Apple's AddressBook synchronized reliably?
>>
>> Short Answer: no.
>
> That being said, here is the recipe I use, and it seems to work pretty well.
>
> 1) Delete every contact in your PowerMail address book
>
> 2) Set your Synchronization in PowerMail to:
> Update PowerMail from Apple's Address Book
> ? On PowerMail startup
> ? When PowerMail is brought to the front (this is optional,
> uncheck if you wish)
>
> Click on "Advanced" and check every check box
>
> 3) Leave unchecked "Update Apple's Address Book from PowerMail"
>
> 4) Never use the "Add to Address Book" menu item
>
> That has worked for me. But when it fails, repeat step (1) above and
> then resynchronize.
>
> PS--Back up your address books (in PowerMail and Apple's Address Book)
> before you start!
>
>
> angel ([email protected]) said on 1/22/09:
>
>
>> greetings,
>>
>> i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing.
>>
>> When i first did a sync, new groups were created in PM that matched
>> the groups in Address Book, but there were no contacts in the groups.
>> i thought it was because the PM groups were inside of folders, so i
>> removed them from the folders, added contacts to several of the empty
>> groups and then re-synced.
>>
>> PM re-created any new groups I made in Address Book, but again, with
>> no contacts. WORSE though, is that it deleted the contacts i added to
>> each group in PM before the sync.
>>
>> it also creates folders called Apple Address Book Contacts with
>> contacts in it and i don't understand why those particular contacts
>> get put in those folders.
>>
>>
>> i have the following checked in preferences:
>>
>> - Update from Apple's Address Book on PM startup
>> - Update Appe's Address Book from PM automatically
>> - Open contacts in Address Book by default.
>>
>>
>> Under "advanced..." for both of them, I have everything checked except
>> for "delete..." because i didn't want to take a chance of losing any
>> contacts.
>>
>> does anyone have any experience with getting PM's address book and
>> Apple's to keep good sync with each other? any documentation anywhere?
>>
>> i should note that i put most of my contacts within folders in PM for
>> organization's sake. that way, when contacts are "loose" i can file
>> them later and everyone gets categorized in a folder.
>>
>> any help or pointers would be much appreciated.
>>
>> thanks, angel
>>
>>
>> ---------
>> PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
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Subject: Re: address book sync
From: "angel" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:40:47 -0600
back again...
i guess i would like to know WHY PM deletes contacts from groups
though i've never checked "delete" for anything.
if the sync isn't expected to work, why include it? CTM are we just
expected to live with the understanding that the sync feature is
presented but doesn't really work?
can we know definitively from the creators? i'd prefer not to figure out
and waste time on a workaround if will just "get confused" repeatedly.
but it's a really important feature for me, so it'd be good to know
whether i *actually* have it or not.
respectfully,
angel
Quoting Alan Harper <[email protected]>:
> Hi Angel
>
> First, I asked about the same question in 2006 and got the following
> response:
>
> Sean McBride ([email protected]) said on 10/12/06:
>
>> Alan Harper ([email protected]) on 2006-10-11 19:50 said:
>>
>>> SHORT QUESTION:
>>>
>>> Has anyone figured out a way to keep the PowerMail address book and
>>> Apple's AddressBook synchronized reliably?
>>
>> Short Answer: no.
>
> That being said, here is the recipe I use, and it seems to work pretty well.
>
> 1) Delete every contact in your PowerMail address book
>
> 2) Set your Synchronization in PowerMail to:
> Update PowerMail from Apple's Address Book
> ? On PowerMail startup
> ? When PowerMail is brought to the front (this is optional,
> uncheck if you wish)
>
> Click on "Advanced" and check every check box
>
> 3) Leave unchecked "Update Apple's Address Book from PowerMail"
>
> 4) Never use the "Add to Address Book" menu item
>
> That has worked for me. But when it fails, repeat step (1) above and
> then resynchronize.
>
> PS--Back up your address books (in PowerMail and Apple's Address Book)
> before you start!
>
>
> angel ([email protected]) said on 1/22/09:
>
>
>> greetings,
>>
>> i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing.
>>
>> When i first did a sync, new groups were created in PM that matched
>> the groups in Address Book, but there were no contacts in the groups.
>> i thought it was because the PM groups were inside of folders, so i
>> removed them from the folders, added contacts to several of the empty
>> groups and then re-synced.
>>
>> PM re-created any new groups I made in Address Book, but again, with
>> no contacts. WORSE though, is that it deleted the contacts i added to
>> each group in PM before the sync.
>>
>> it also creates folders called Apple Address Book Contacts with
>> contacts in it and i don't understand why those particular contacts
>> get put in those folders.
>>
>>
>> i have the following checked in preferences:
>>
>> - Update from Apple's Address Book on PM startup
>> - Update Appe's Address Book from PM automatically
>> - Open contacts in Address Book by default.
>>
>>
>> Under "advanced..." for both of them, I have everything checked except
>> for "delete..." because i didn't want to take a chance of losing any
>> contacts.
>>
>> does anyone have any experience with getting PM's address book and
>> Apple's to keep good sync with each other? any documentation anywhere?
>>
>> i should note that i put most of my contacts within folders in PM for
>> organization's sake. that way, when contacts are "loose" i can file
>> them later and everyone gets categorized in a folder.
>>
>> any help or pointers would be much appreciated.
>>
>> thanks, angel
>>
>>
>> ---------
>> PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
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Subject: Re(2): address book sync
From: "Alan Harper" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:40:22 -0800
Well, I don't have a better solution. You can export your PowerMail
address book in Apple Address Book format, import into Address Book,
merge all the duplicates, and then reimport into PowerMail. For what it
is worth, be careful with the automagic "Look for Duplicates..." menu
item in Address Book--it has cost me hours of time undoing what it did.
A
angel ([email protected]) said on 1/24/09:
>
>hi Alan,
>
>thanks for the help. it seems absurd that we shouldn't be able to to
>sync or syncH with address book since so many other programs are
>using. i tried to avoid using it, but the wave is heavily towards
>using it's database for just about everything (including of course
>iphone, PIMs, bulk mail programs, etc.)
>
>the problem is that i've used PM much longer and more frequently than
>Addres Book, especially when it comes to keep email addresses up to
>date. so deleting PM's contacts means losing many (and likely more
>up-to-date) email addresses.
>
>my Address Book more often holds snail mail that i'd like to keep for
>that rare occasion of needing that ancient reference, PM more often
>has not only email, but updated email.
>
>but if i want to use virtually any other program, it's not PM that
>those talk to.
>
>anyone else have a work around that doesn't require losing PM's
>contacts or retyping what could be 100s?
>
>thanks again and cheers,
>angel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Quoting Alan Harper <[email protected]>:
>
>> Hi Angel
>>
>> First, I asked about the same question in 2006 and got the following
>> response:
>>
>> Sean McBride ([email protected]) said on 10/12/06:
>>
>>> Alan Harper ([email protected]) on 2006-10-11 19:50 said:
>>>
>>>> SHORT QUESTION:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone figured out a way to keep the PowerMail address book and
>>>> Apple's AddressBook synchronized reliably?
>>>
>>> Short Answer: no.
>>
>> That being said, here is the recipe I use, and it seems to work
pretty well.
>>
>> 1) Delete every contact in your PowerMail address book
>>
>> 2) Set your Synchronization in PowerMail to:
>> Update PowerMail from Apple's Address Book
>> ? On PowerMail startup
>> ? When PowerMail is brought to the front (this is optional,
>> uncheck if you wish)
>>
>> Click on "Advanced" and check every check box
>>
>> 3) Leave unchecked "Update Apple's Address Book from PowerMail"
>>
>> 4) Never use the "Add to Address Book" menu item
>>
>> That has worked for me. But when it fails, repeat step (1) above and
>> then resynchronize.
>>
>> PS--Back up your address books (in PowerMail and Apple's Address Book)
>> before you start!
>>
>>
>> angel ([email protected]) said on 1/22/09:
>>
>>
>>> greetings,
>>>
>>> i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing.
>>>
>>> When i first did a sync, new groups were created in PM that matched
>>> the groups in Address Book, but there were no contacts in the groups.
>>> i thought it was because the PM groups were inside of folders, so i
>>> removed them from the folders, added contacts to several of the empty
>>> groups and then re-synced.
>>>
>>> PM re-created any new groups I made in Address Book, but again, with
>>> no contacts. WORSE though, is that it deleted the contacts i added to
>>> each group in PM before the sync.
>>>
>>> it also creates folders called Apple Address Book Contacts with
>>> contacts in it and i don't understand why those particular contacts
>>> get put in those folders.
>>>
>>>
>>> i have the following checked in preferences:
>>>
>>> - Update from Apple's Address Book on PM startup
>>> - Update Appe's Address Book from PM automatically
>>> - Open contacts in Address Book by default.
>>>
>>>
>>> Under "advanced..." for both of them, I have everything checked except
>>> for "delete..." because i didn't want to take a chance of losing any
>>> contacts.
>>>
>>> does anyone have any experience with getting PM's address book and
>>> Apple's to keep good sync with each other? any documentation anywhere?
>>>
>>> i should note that i put most of my contacts within folders in PM for
>>> organization's sake. that way, when contacts are "loose" i can file
>>> them later and everyone gets categorized in a folder.
>>>
>>> any help or pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks, angel
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------
>PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
>
>
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Subject: How to retrieve messages from old Message Database?
From: "Raphaël PAREJO" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:16:43 +0100
Hello!
I've saved in 2000 my messages (Powermail 3), but only the Message
Database file... Can i retrieve these messages with only this unique
"Message Database" file?
Thank you for your help.
Best regards.
--
Raphaël Parejo
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