powermail-discuss Digest #2826 - Tuesday, January 19, 2010
Re: Time for an update!
by "Richard Hart" <[email protected]>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Michael Lewis" <[email protected]>
Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client
by "Sean McBride" <[email protected]>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Paul Schatzkin (mobile)" <[email protected]>
Re: Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client
by "Paul Schatzkin (mobile)" <[email protected]>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Paul Schatzkin (mobile)" <[email protected]>
Re(2): Time for an update!
by "George Henne" <[email protected]>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Tim lapin" <[email protected]>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Michael Lewis" <[email protected]>
Re: Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client
by "Michael Lewis" <[email protected]>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Ben Kennedy" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Richard Hart" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:25:57 -0800
I agree with Michael. I would never allow my employees to use an email
client that did not allow me to turn off the display of inline images.
To display inline images by default is inconsiderate because it is too
dangerous.
Richard Hart
You wrote:
>A-NO-NE Music ([email protected]) wrote:
>
>> What standard now is Apple Mail.
>
>Apple Mail has a hidden preference ("DisableInlineAttachmentViewing";
>you can set it using the shell) governing whether attachments are
>displayed inline. Contrary to what George supposed, Apple Mail doesn't
>care about the author's intentions.
>
>Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail clients
>were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I for one
>am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be
>improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would call an
>improvement.
>
>- Michael
>
>
>Michael J. Hußmann
>
>E-mail: [email protected]
>WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
>WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Michael Lewis" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:05:08 -0600
On Jan 16, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Michael J. Hußmann wrote:
> Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail clients
> were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I for one
> am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be
> improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would call an
> improvement.
>
> - Michael
I agree. While I have switched to Apple Mail for the time being, and I agree
PowerMail could use some new doodads, I don't think making it show all HTML
mail stuff is good -- at least without options/preferences for some heavy
customization of what is and isn't shown.
I've stayed on the list because I do like PowerMail and want to watch what is
happening with it. I hope it remains an alternative to HTML/styled email (which
I still hate despite going to Apple Mail to deal with some mail I get now :( ),
with enough HTML capability to make several users happy, but the ability to
turn it off in bits and pieces as needed by others like me.
--
Michael Lewis
[email protected]
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Subject: Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client
From: "Sean McBride" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:57:33 -0500
Hi all,
There is a Mac developer named Brent Simmons that, on his blog, tossed
out the idea about creating a new power user Mac email client:
<http://inessential.com/2010/01/16/email_init>
Looks like there are a bunch of people that think it would be a good idea.
He's created a mailing list too:
<http://lists.ranchero.com/listinfo.cgi/letters-dev-ranchero.com>
Could be interesting....
Sean
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Paul Schatzkin (mobile)" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:16:56 -0600
And I would NEVER used an e-mail program whose "support" srvice t
relentlessly spams NON USERS with unwanted support e-mails without so
much as an " unsubscribe" link in the msgs. This is lame, stupid and
fucked up. How do I make it stop???
--PS
Sent from my iPhone, which is why it's so short.
On Jan 16, 2010, at 4:25 PM, "Richard Hart"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree with Michael. I would never allow my employees to use an email
> client that did not allow me to turn off the display of inline images.
> To display inline images by default is inconsiderate because it is too
> dangerous.
>
> Richard Hart
>
> You wrote:
>
>> A-NO-NE Music ([email protected]) wrote:
>>
>>> What standard now is Apple Mail.
>>
>> Apple Mail has a hidden preference ("DisableInlineAttachmentViewing";
>> you can set it using the shell) governing whether attachments are
>> displayed inline. Contrary to what George supposed, Apple Mail
>> doesn't
>> care about the author's intentions.
>>
>> Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail
>> clients
>> were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I
>> for one
>> am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be
>> improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would
>> call an
>> improvement.
>>
>> - Michael
>>
>>
>> Michael J. HuÃmann
>>
>> E-mail: [email protected]
>> WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
>> WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client
From: "Paul Schatzkin (mobile)" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:18:18 -0600
ENOUGH. POWERMAIL GET YOUR FUCKING HOUSE IN ORDER!!!!
--PS
Sent from my iPhone, which is why it's so short.
On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:57 PM, "Sean McBride" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There is a Mac developer named Brent Simmons that, on his blog, tossed
> out the idea about creating a new power user Mac email client:
>
> <http://inessential.com/2010/01/16/email_init>
>
> Looks like there are a bunch of people that think it would be a good
> idea.
>
> He's created a mailing list too:
>
> <http://lists.ranchero.com/listinfo.cgi/letters-dev-ranchero.com>
>
> Could be interesting....
>
> Sean
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Paul Schatzkin (mobile)" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:19:56 -0600
AT LEAST MY APPLE MAIL DOESNT CONTINUOUSLY SPAM ME.
--PS
Sent from my iPhone, which is why it's so short.
On Jan 16, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Michael Lewis <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> On Jan 16, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Michael J. HuÃmann wrote:
>
>> Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail
>> clients
>> were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I
>> for one
>> am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be
>> improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would
>> call an
>> improvement.
>>
>> - Michael
>
> I agree. While I have switched to Apple Mail for the time being, and
> I agree PowerMail could use some new doodads, I don't think making
> it show all HTML mail stuff is good -- at least without options/
> preferences for some heavy customization of what is and isn't shown.
>
> I've stayed on the list because I do like PowerMail and want to
> watch what is happening with it. I hope it remains an alternative to
> HTML/styled email (which I still hate despite going to Apple Mail to
> deal with some mail I get now :( ), with enough HTML capability to
> make several users happy, but the ability to turn it off in bits and
> pieces as needed by others like me.
>
> --
> Michael Lewis
> [email protected]
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Subject: Re(2): Time for an update!
From: "George Henne" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:25:34 -0500
I think you're missing my point.
An html mail with embedded images is a perfectly reasonable thing to
expect your browser to display properly.
I used Apple Mail as a comparison, since it's reasonable to expect
PowerMail to work at least as well. I could have used almost any other
modern mail reader: they all do this properly.
If you want to have the option of turning that off, fine. At least give
me the option to view it properly.
PS. What is the danger in displaying inline images?
>I agree with Michael. I would never allow my employees to use an email
>client that did not allow me to turn off the display of inline images.
>To display inline images by default is inconsiderate because it is too
>dangerous.
>
>Richard Hart
>
>You wrote:
>
>>A-NO-NE Music ([email protected]) wrote:
>>
>>> What standard now is Apple Mail.
>>
>>Apple Mail has a hidden preference ("DisableInlineAttachmentViewing";
>>you can set it using the shell) governing whether attachments are
>>displayed inline. Contrary to what George supposed, Apple Mail doesn't
>>care about the author's intentions.
>>
>>Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail clients
>>were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I for one
>>am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be
>>improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would call an
>>improvement.
>>
>>- Michael
>>
>>
>>Michael J. Hußmann
>>
>>E-mail: [email protected]
>>WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
>>WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Tim lapin" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:38:29 -0500
On 19/01/2010 12:16 PM, Paul Schatzkin (mobile) wrote:
> And I would NEVER used an e-mail program whose "support" srvice t
> relentlessly spams NON USERS with unwanted support e-mails without so
> much as an " unsubscribe" link in the msgs. This is lame, stupid and
> fucked up. How do I make it stop???
>
> --PS
>
> Sent from my iPhone, which is why it's so short.
>
There is an "unsubscribe" link. It is in the headers only, however.
You might have to turn on "full headers" to view it, though:
List-Unsubscribe:
<mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe%20powermail-discuss>
I agree that it would be better in the message body itself but at least
it's there.
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Michael Lewis" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:51:28 -0600
Does your Apple Mail not show you the headers like my Apple Mail does? You can
find the unsubscribe email address there, as is usual for most compliant email
list services. You will, most likely, need to unsubscribe from the original
address you used to subscribe.
--
Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
www.offbalance.com
[email protected]
On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Paul Schatzkin (mobile) wrote:
> AT LEAST MY APPLE MAIL DOESNT CONTINUOUSLY SPAM ME.
>
> --PS
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Subject: Re: Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client
From: "Michael Lewis" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:58:13 -0600
If you want to send that kind of language, send it directly to CTM and not to a
list that has many other people on it who are legitimately discussing things
per the reason for the list. I don't want to read your spam, either. Jerk.
(Would have sent this personal, but his address bounced. Double jerk.)
--
Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
www.offbalance.com
[email protected]
On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Paul Schatzkin (mobile) wrote:
> ENOUGH. POWERMAIL GET YOUR ******* HOUSE IN ORDER!!!!
>
> --PS
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Ben Kennedy" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:58:49 -0800
Paul, some decorum please. Now you're just spamming the list (i.e. the
rest of us) with your profanities.
-ben
Paul Schatzkin (mobile) wrote at 11:19 AM (-0600) on 1/19/10:
>AT LEAST MY APPLE MAIL DOESNT CONTINUOUSLY SPAM ME.
>
>--PS
>
>Sent from my iPhone, which is why it's so short.
>
>On Jan 16, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Michael Lewis <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Michael J. Hußmann wrote:
>>
>>> Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail
>>> clients
>>> were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I
>>> for one
>>> am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be
>>> improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would
>>> call an
>>> improvement.
>>>
>>> - Michael
>>
>> I agree. While I have switched to Apple Mail for the time being, and
>> I agree PowerMail could use some new doodads, I don't think making
>> it show all HTML mail stuff is good -- at least without options/
>> preferences for some heavy customization of what is and isn't shown.
>>
>> I've stayed on the list because I do like PowerMail and want to
>> watch what is happening with it. I hope it remains an alternative to
>> HTML/styled email (which I still hate despite going to Apple Mail to
>> deal with some mail I get now :( ), with enough HTML capability to
>> make several users happy, but the ability to turn it off in bits and
>> pieces as needed by others like me.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Lewis
>> [email protected]
--
Ben Kennedy (chief magician)
zygoat creative technical services
http://www.zygoat.ca
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