powermail-discuss Digest #2853 - Thursday, June 10, 2010

  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "Thomas Miller" <[email protected]>
  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "Kjell Olausson" <[email protected]>
  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "Tim lapin" <[email protected]>
  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "Thomas Miller" <[email protected]>
  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "T.L. Miller" <[email protected]>
  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
  Re(2): Can't Send Messages
          by "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
  Error logs ( was "Can't Send Messages")
          by "MB" <[email protected]>
  Re: Error -981
          by "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>


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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "Thomas Miller" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:52:17 -0400

It is strange that I can send using mac.com (me.com) address from Mail, but no 
longer from PowerMail. Using my Gmail account or my ISP's is no problem from PM 
-- just mac.com.

Also, although I used the applescript to delete the two Waiting messages, my 
Out Tray is still bold. It does lose the boldness when it's in the process of 
sending, but goes bold again after the message is sent.

Tom Miller


On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Thomas Miller wrote:

Thomas Miller wrote:

>> 2. In the event that a Waiting message was Trashed, how do you stop PM
>> from remembering there is that message it couldn't send?

On 6/9/10, at 2:31 PM, Rene Merz [email protected] said:

> Use for such a case the integrated Script (at Script Menu) "Delete
> Message Immediately", than close and restart PowerMail.

Thanks. I'm sending this from Mail since I have 2 messages from last night that 
are still "Waiting" in the current version of PM.


Tom Miller
..................................................
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
...................................................





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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "Kjell Olausson" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:17:07 +0200

Thomas Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

>It is strange that I can send using mac.com (me.com) address from Mail,
>but no longer from PowerMail. Using my Gmail account or my ISP's is no
>problem from PM -- just mac.com.
>
>Also, although I used the applescript to delete the two Waiting
>messages, my Out Tray is still bold. It does lose the boldness when it's
>in the process of sending, but goes bold again after the message is sent.

Have you tried PowerMail First Aid?

--
Regards, Kjell Olausson
<http://www.kio.nu>
Kållered, Sweden

iMac G5|1,8 GHz|OS 10.5.8|1 GB RAM|PM 6.0.5|Horizontal Layout


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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "Tim lapin" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:25:24 -0400

Sounds like a flag that won't reset or possibly a corrupted database
issue.  Have you tried the various utilities available when starting up
Powermail?  (rebuild database, rebuild indices,...)




On 09/06/2010 2:52 PM, Thomas Miller wrote:
> It is strange that I can send using mac.com (me.com) address from Mail, but 
> no longer from PowerMail. Using my Gmail account or my ISP's is no problem 
> from PM -- just mac.com.
>
> Also, although I used the applescript to delete the two Waiting messages, my 
> Out Tray is still bold. It does lose the boldness when it's in the process of 
> sending, but goes bold again after the message is sent.
>
> Tom Miller
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Thomas Miller wrote:
>
> Thomas Miller wrote:
>
>>> 2. In the event that a Waiting message was Trashed, how do you stop PM
>>> from remembering there is that message it couldn't send?
>
> On 6/9/10, at 2:31 PM, Rene Merz [email protected] said:
>
>> Use for such a case the integrated Script (at Script Menu) "Delete
>> Message Immediately", than close and restart PowerMail.
>
> Thanks. I'm sending this from Mail since I have 2 messages from last night 
> that are still "Waiting" in the current version of PM.
>
>
> Tom Miller
> ..................................................
> "The only time we see the middle of the road is as
> we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
> ...................................................
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "Thomas Miller" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:14:58 -0400

When I start up from my SuperDuper HD clone from Saturday when everything was 
working fine, the same problem exists.  Oddly, my wife is having the same 
problem using an old version of Mail (2.1.3) on Tiger on her old iMac lamp.

Therefore, the problem must be with mac/me.com.  I've posted the question to 
Apple Discussions, but no replies.  Could it be some problem caused by my ISP, 
Verizon?

BTW, when Waiting messages are deleted, PM shows "-4 waiting." It still wants 
to send those messages I deleted. Argh!!!!

Tom Miller




On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Tim lapin wrote:

Sounds like a flag that won't reset or possibly a corrupted database issue.  
Have you tried the various utilities available when starting up Powermail?  
(rebuild database, rebuild indices,...)




On 09/06/2010 2:52 PM, Thomas Miller wrote:
> It is strange that I can send using mac.com (me.com) address from Mail, but 
> no longer from PowerMail. Using my Gmail account or my ISP's is no problem 
> from PM -- just mac.com.
>
> Also, although I used the applescript to delete the two Waiting messages, my 
> Out Tray is still bold. It does lose the boldness when it's in the process of 
> sending, but goes bold again after the message is sent.
>
> Tom Miller
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Thomas Miller wrote:
>
> Thomas Miller wrote:
>
>>> 2. In the event that a Waiting message was Trashed, how do you stop PM
>>> from remembering there is that message it couldn't send?
>
> On 6/9/10, at 2:31 PM, Rene Merz [email protected] said:
>
>> Use for such a case the integrated Script (at Script Menu) "Delete
>> Message Immediately", than close and restart PowerMail.
>
> Thanks. I'm sending this from Mail since I have 2 messages from last night 
> that are still "Waiting" in the current version of PM.
>
>
> Tom Miller
> ..................................................
> "The only time we see the middle of the road is as
> we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
> ...................................................
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "T.L. Miller" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:58:20 -0400

On 6/10/10, at 9:14 AM, Thomas Miller [email protected] said:

>Therefore, the problem must be with mac/me.com.  I've posted the
>question to Apple Discussions, but no replies.  Could it be some problem
>caused by my ISP, Verizon?

Looks like Verizon changed something. Sorry for the bother.

>BTW, when Waiting messages are deleted, PM shows "-4 waiting." It still
>wants to send those messages I deleted. Argh!!!!

I'm still curious how I can get PM to stop trying to send Waiting
messages I have deleted.


Tom Miller
..................................................
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
...................................................






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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:10:37 +0200

Thomas Miller wrote:

>When I start up from my SuperDuper HD clone from Saturday when
>everything was working fine, the same problem exists.  Oddly, my wife is
>having the same problem using an old version of Mail (2.1.3) on Tiger on
>her old iMac lamp.
>
>Therefore, the problem must be with mac/me.com.  I've posted the
>question to Apple Discussions, but no replies.  Could it be some problem
>caused by my ISP, Verizon?

Yes, that could be!
I had a similar problem recently with my ISP (Swisscom) for my gmx-accounts.
It could be that the don't accept anymore the port you used until now
for your .mac-accounts (reason: avoiding SPAM).
What is your port number now?
And consult the newest security information of your ISP about account
installation on a mail client.

>BTW, when Waiting messages are deleted, PM shows "-4 waiting." It still
>wants to send those messages I deleted. Argh!!!!




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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:23:59 +0200

T.L. Miller wrote:

>>BTW, when Waiting messages are deleted, PM shows "-4 waiting." It still
>>wants to send those messages I deleted. Argh!!!!
>
>I'm still curious how I can get PM to stop trying to send Waiting
>messages I have deleted.

As Kjell Olausson said: Try the first aid:
Start PM holding down alt+Apple-key and choose the full reconstruction program


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Subject: Re(2): Can't Send Messages
From: "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:31:16 -0400

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010, Rene Merz <[email protected]> wrote:

>Thomas Miller wrote:
>
>>When I start up from my SuperDuper HD clone from Saturday when
>>everything was working fine, the same problem exists.  Oddly, my wife is
>>having the same problem using an old version of Mail (2.1.3) on Tiger on
>>her old iMac lamp.
>>
>>Therefore, the problem must be with mac/me.com.  I've posted the
>>question to Apple Discussions, but no replies.  Could it be some problem
>>caused by my ISP, Verizon?
>
>Yes, that could be!
>I had a similar problem recently with my ISP (Swisscom) for my gmx-accounts.
>It could be that the don't accept anymore the port you used until now
>for your .mac-accounts (reason: avoiding SPAM).
>What is your port number now?
>And consult the newest security information of your ISP about account
>installation on a mail client.
>
>>BTW, when Waiting messages are deleted, PM shows "-4 waiting." It still
>>wants to send those messages I deleted. Argh!!!!
>
>
>
>


Verizon has been rolling out blocking of port 25 in various areas. I got
it about a month ago.

My config for .mac  is ...

authenticate as user <your .mac ID>
password <your password>

use secure connection   use port 587
Using the STARTTLS command

... and this works through Verizon (FiOS)


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Subject: Error logs ( was "Can't Send Messages")
From: "MB" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:37:27 +0200

Error logs!
Enough said.




Peter Lovell said:

>On Thu, Jun 10, 2010, Rene Merz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Thomas Miller wrote:
>>
>>>When I start up from my SuperDuper HD clone from Saturday when
>>>everything was working fine, the same problem exists.  Oddly, my wife is
>>>having the same problem using an old version of Mail (2.1.3) on Tiger on
>>>her old iMac lamp.
>>>
>>>Therefore, the problem must be with mac/me.com.  I've posted the
>>>question to Apple Discussions, but no replies.  Could it be some problem
>>>caused by my ISP, Verizon?
>>
>>Yes, that could be!
>>I had a similar problem recently with my ISP (Swisscom) for my gmx-accounts.
>>It could be that the don't accept anymore the port you used until now
>>for your .mac-accounts (reason: avoiding SPAM).
>>What is your port number now?
>>And consult the newest security information of your ISP about account
>>installation on a mail client.
>>
>>>BTW, when Waiting messages are deleted, PM shows "-4 waiting." It still
>>>wants to send those messages I deleted. Argh!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Verizon has been rolling out blocking of port 25 in various areas. I got
>it about a month ago.
>
>My config for .mac  is ...
>
>authenticate as user <your .mac ID>
>password <your password>
>
>use secure connection   use port 587
>Using the STARTTLS command
>
>... and this works through Verizon (FiOS)
>
>



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Subject: Re: Error -981
From: "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:38:10 +0200

Tobias Jung <[email protected]> wrote (Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:58:25 +0200):

> I occasionally get Error -981, too.
> On my system, it's like this:
> - When I double-click the message to open it in a new window, I get the
> error message.
> (...)

Seems to be fixed in PM 6.0.5 -- no Error -981 anymore on my system.
Thank you very much! :-)

Kind regards,
Tobias Jung



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